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good evening little pre-show chat here

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happy Thanksgiving to everybody that's

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out there another special event tonight

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Richard Dolan is here and what a way to

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wrap up what we did last night with

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David Wilcock an absolutely amazing show

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and tonight with Richard we are going to

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discuss UFOs in disclosure in 2018 what

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to expect he wrote an excellent paper

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about this a few months back and there

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is nobody better to discuss this very

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very important topic now what's really

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cool about Richard obviously you know

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and but I think of late and we're gonna

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talk to him about this he's really

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really figured out how to communicate

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his real self is is starting to flow

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here and you can see that in his new

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show over on Gaia's called false flags

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and if you haven't seen it on gaia go

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and check that out but he's always been

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a guest he's always been the talking

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head he's always been the expert brought

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his own platform now he does it on the

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radio enough but I'm just talking about

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he was but but now it's it's he's he's

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pretending before I just don't think it

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was the real him so anyway tonight

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Richard Dolan now he is with us you know

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probably four or five six times a year

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end of the wrap-up with them and we're

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doing that now and so enjoy the show

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tonight there was something else I

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running here yeah we're good okay so we

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go live in about 45 seconds I'll see you

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this radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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good evening fades black the spoke radio

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for the masses yeah man how you doing

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poll anis I'm your host Jimmy Church

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what is Co racket everybody how you

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doing all right Happy Thanksgiving now

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what a great week last night we had a

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special with him amazing and tonight

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is here now we're gonna go old-school

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tonight we are going to discuss UFOs and

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disclosure 2018 what we can expect next

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now also we're gonna throw in some false

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flags because he has got a new show out

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a new series on Gaia called false flags

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it's absolutely amazing it's his passion

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and he's been wanting to do this for a

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very long time so we've got to throw

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way if you you know you start connecting

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the dots and false flags and UFOs

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actually go together don't they and

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floated around for probably the better

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the original speeches that Ronald Reagan

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take an alien you know attack from outer

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space to finally unite the world think

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about that the New World Order and and

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would that be the case right so that's

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how you tie those together and there's

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nobody better than Richard bleep in

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Dolin so he is here with us tonight

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now tomorrow night is another Fator

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night open lines all night long and Jon

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Thanksgiving so tomorrow will be open

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lines and we move that to tomorrow night

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because Thursday we are celebrating

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Thanksgiving with our family and as you

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will be too okay so just enjoy your

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weekend and Happy Thanksgiving from all

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of us here at fade to black because we

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have so much to be thankful for and I

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I just want to drive this home if you

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have the ability to listen to this show

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you know to be watching this show which

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is something rare but if you have that

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ability you have a lot to be thankful

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for there are so many people and this

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were billions in this world that don't

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have that opportunity so think about

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that no matter how rough life is rough

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for everybody it's rough for me

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everybody's got their issues that

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they're dealing with day to day to day

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okay but those are those are problems

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that other people wish they had because

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they don't have anything so think about

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that you know late on your car payment

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you out you know whatever you just got a

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speeding ticket whatever it is these

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these day-to-day things right at least

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so think about that we all have a lot to

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you got that speeding ticket because you

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all right happy Thanksgiving everybody

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in and tomorrow night we'll be talking

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about everybody's turkeys and food and

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what you guys do for Thanksgiving and

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a lot of fun with it and that's it so

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that's why it's rich Dolan and I find

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that to be absolutely hysterical you can

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misspoke it was Lana Clarkson okay so I

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Turner Lana Turner died of she had

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Church radio.com okay now our next event

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this show crackin today happy birthday

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to be short bays York like Bjork

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she used to really really freak me out

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but York today is 52 what was the name

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of her band before she was boos York wow

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man I want to say it was The Cranberries

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was it The Cranberries can't remember

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somebody popped that up in Twitter

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really quick also today Jena Malone is

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33 and great young actress 33 years old

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but she was the girlfriend in Donnie

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Darko and she was also the star in

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sucker punch and that was a great movie

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by the way today Jena Malone is 33 our

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Harold Ramos Harold bleep and Ramos 1944

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to 2014 died very young at the age of 69

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screenwriter director and actor known

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for some of the greatest films of our

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it's Bjork

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no not here in the United States its

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majority Bjork be sugar cubes

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that's it sugar cubes that was sugar

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cubes was a great bad what did I say the

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Harold Ramos 1944 2014 and it was

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seriously responsible for some of the

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greatest films of our generation how

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about Caddyshack meatballs back to

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school

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Club Paradise one of my favorite films

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of all time Groundhog Day stripes

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Ghostbusters and national lampoon's

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vacation man also sctv he was really

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good in that too as well a lot of people

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don't remember him from Essie TV happy

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birthday I know he's listening Harold

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Ramis on this day in history in 1877 it

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was one of the biggest days in the world

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in in world history in 1877 on this day

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Edison announces his first great

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invention the phonograph that's right a

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way to record and playback sound got

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that done in 1877 absolutely incredible

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here's a fader fact for you a really

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interesting one too as well

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Elon Musk proposed to his second wife

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after they were together for just ten

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days but that's not what's interesting

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what is interesting is that they

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divorced two years later and then

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remarried the year after that and then

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filed for divorce again and then

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withdrew that filing refiled and then

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finally divorced and went through with

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it and that is a fader bag all right

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tonight Richard Dolan is back we're

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gonna we're gonna we're gonna do a

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throwback kind of show tonight we're

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gonna discuss UFOs in disclosure what we

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can expect in the coming year of 2018

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he's also got a new show out on Gaia it

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is called false flags the show is

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absolutely amazing and it starts off

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we're gonna talk a little bit about this

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tonight with Richard but starts off with

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like a false Flags 101 the first episode

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takes you through well false flags are

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and and why they're called false flags

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and and so forth and then really goes

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deep this show is amazing so we'll

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discuss a little bit of false flags and

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UFOs combined with disclosure all night

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tonight Happy Thanksgiving because this

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is a really special Thanksgiving kind of

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show

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tomorrow night is another fader night

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open lines Jon Rappoport will be taking

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the week off and we'll see him again

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next Thursday

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now hackers have accessed again millions

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of uber users personal information now

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this is what is amazing here uber

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decided not to report it to hackers got

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into the system and this is last year in

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2016 and officially outside of the

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company access personal information of

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57 million uber users including names

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email addresses phone numbers and the

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company hasn't really disclosed much

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more than that but they also accessed

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driver's license numbers yeah officially

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600,000 driver's license numbers now

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that's obviously uber drivers if you

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think about that okay the 600,000 was

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included in the total number of affected

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users the 57 million company did not say

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anything they didn't alert victims they

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didn't alert regulators they did an

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alert law enforcement nobody okay now

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they discovered it last year they knew

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that had happened going through uh you

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know the the the charges and some of the

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allegations that were going on with

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personnel and and some other things all

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the way up to the CEO of the company

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last year the stock prices were going up

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and down you had different cities and

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countries around the world revolting

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against uber and they've got now a lot

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of competition where before they were

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the only ride in town but now there's

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lyft and others right so

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uber had a lot of things on their plate

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and drivers complaining about not

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getting paid and then ubers raising

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prices but they were you know paying

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their drivers more and so forth now the

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company is really really really worth a

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lot of money okay but it's to do this

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worrying about dollars and to get hacked

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and have the personal information 457

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million people exposed and not let

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anybody know about it that is their

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directly to the customers you know like

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hey change your password you know they

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didn't do that it's it's an unbelievable

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unbelievabl violation of the public

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trust and with the problems that uber

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has been going through why would you do

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it at this point who is who is advising

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you know giving that advice I don't

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understand it we have the problems with

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Equifax we have the problems repeated

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with Yahoo and and I can go I can go on

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and on and on I would think that if we

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did the math that pretty much everybody

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in the United States everybody now has

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their personal information for sale on

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the dark web somewhere somewhere I don't

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know how to to say it more clearly than

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that there was a point I remember I

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remember my first driver's license in

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Indiana and my mom said to me there in

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Indiana she goes you know what's really

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great it's easy if somebody had asked me

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for my driver's license number am i dead

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which was in my wallet or something and

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my mom goes no no no everybody knows the

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driver's license number here in Indiana

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I said oh yeah really it's because yeah

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it's your social security number with an

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S in front of it oh no really and and I

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thought

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so that feels weird that feels strange

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[Music]

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now we know that your social security

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number and and your private information

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it net it's never needed to be more

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private than it is today we do

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everything we can not to let anybody

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know anything a PIN number this you

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don't want to see people too you don't

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want you know your mail and and you're

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at a checkout line and scanners and

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chips and cards and card readers and all

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of this is out there and so we need to

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know now

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today when something like this happens

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it is your responsibility that within

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seconds to alert your 57 million

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customers in your customer base they are

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the reason why your your company exists

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that that's the respect that you need to

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give back to your customers and by not

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doing it

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you're showing zero respect you're not

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respecting the money you're not

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respecting what is proper to you up

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you're not respecting what is put you

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there which is your customers we need to

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protect that I am so blown away by this

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news today I was really upset when when

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when it came down with Equifax when it

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happened once or twice three times with

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Yahoo you know what we're talking about

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150 million two hundred million

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population in the United States and 350

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million so when you're talking about

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numbers of 200 million people right you

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know fifty seven million people

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fifty-seven minutes one in seven people

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were exposed

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one in seven I'm just totally

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disappointed I really we have here I

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mean there's nothing you can really do

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of course we have a credit card a credit

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lock or live lock and we might even have

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to

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different companies that that were

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signed up with and I I'm waiting for

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LifeLock to get hacked you know I don't

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know how to keep stuff private anymore I

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I just don't and and what we really need

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is to make sure that those large

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companies that have that kind of

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information if there is a breach -

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immediately - the second to alert the

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customer base that's it

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all right I'm gonna get out of here

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tonight Richard Dolan and we had an

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absolutely fantastic show last night

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with David Wilcock and it was we've done

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a lot of shows with David this year

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every year you know we probably do three

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four or five shows with David all year

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long last year last night was the first

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time for me that I think he was really

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comfortable and the reason why he's

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comfortable is he's seeing things play

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out and last night it was that kind of

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show and I expect the same thing tonight

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from Richard it's a very special week

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for us here and for you this is

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Thanksgiving for you to spend three

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hours of your evening every night here

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with us we want to give back to you

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so last night David Wilcock tonight

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Richard Dolan

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy church and I'll be right back

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after this short break with our guest

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Richard bleepin Dolan on the GameChanger

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network in kg ra the planet you can

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jimmy at jimmy church radio comm we've

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all right welcome back fade to black

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happy Thanksgiving everybody great week

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here on fade to black and makes me feel

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great to know that you're here with us

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spending your time here on faith the

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block you can follow me on Twitter I

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teach a church radio you can follow

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Richard at rich Dolan you do that it

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pops up Richard bleep and Dolan but

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we're at rich Dolan on Twitter Richard

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is one of the world's leading UFO

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historians he has written many classics

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for the field including UFOs in the

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national security state ad after

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disclosure and UFOs for the 21st century

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mine as well as ongoing booklets and one

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that he wrote on the Trump

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administration and disclosure you need

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00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:10,660
to really go check that out at Richard

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Dolan pres it's a really really amazing

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a piece of work it's a it's only 70

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pages I think so it's a quick read

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00:38:25,710 --> 00:38:21,790
but his lectures and everything have

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always just captured audiences all

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around the world and of course he has

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appeared on television and ancient

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aliens and along with myself on hangar 1

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which that series would come back and it

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just might under another name currently

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he is the writer and host of the series

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false flags on Gaia I was speaking about

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this to the fader knots before the show

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tonight it's an outstanding series and

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00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:47,200
you should go check that out right now a

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00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:49,870
guy it's really well done and he has of

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00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:51,670
course the Richard Dolan show right here

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on kgr a he's got another radio show

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that he does call the EFT of files and

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you can check out all of that over at

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Richard Dolan press comm tonight we're

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going to discuss UFOs disclosure 2018

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the best evidence in the history and

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what we can expect in the coming year

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and I would like to welcome back to fade

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to black Richard bleep and Dolan Richard

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good evening my man how'd you know hey

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00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:18,730
it's nice to be here with you on KCRA

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00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:20,470
thanks for having me on tonight it's

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00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:23,530
always great to hear your voice now you

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00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:25,060
know where I'm going you know where I'm

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going right now first off happy

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Thanksgiving and I hope that's you

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Thanksgiving and I hope you're ready for

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this Thursday

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what was the last song you listened to

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00:39:41,069 --> 00:39:38,710
today I forgot you were gonna ask me

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that I honestly forgot you're going to

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00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:43,660
ask me that question how could I forget

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because you always do this let's see I

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00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:51,730
was working up in my attic getting that

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00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:52,900
whole thing I've been doing a major

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00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:54,910
renovation up there mmm I had disco

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00:40:02,700 --> 00:39:59,339
music on all evening I love my disco yes

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00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:02,710
I think I had done a summer singing Bad

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Girls I think that's my latest oh nice

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okay you know disco for me it takes me

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right back we're the same age

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so it takes me right back to those very

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special days of the 70s man and and it's

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it's I don't care what anybody I'm a

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heavy-metal guy you know that you know I

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00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,040
like kind of like my my heavy metal but

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00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:32,560
disco that will get your emotions going

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00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:34,510
doesn't it it just we say this about

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disco I have really come to appreciate

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00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:41,770
this go very very much and disco taught

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00:40:47,819 --> 00:40:43,660
me a lesson in the 70s I was a teenager

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and I remember being about 15 years old

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and really digging the soundtrack to

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Saturday Night Fever at the beach is

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travolt it was mega superstar dancer in

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that movie and then came the whole

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backlash against disco at least among a

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lot of kids in my high school actually

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the disco sucks t-shirts and everything

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bad just go sucked and it was the I was

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15 16 and I to my shame really

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allowed myself to succumb to that and I

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got myself into this disco sucks mode as

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well and I remembered I traded in my

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Saturday Night Fever album for Frampton

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Comes Alive yeah I just want to say this

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into anyone I want this to be a lesson

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because I look back on that period in my

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life and I I think I can honestly say it

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was the last time in my life when I

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allowed stoop

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peer pressure censorship help me write

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like what I what I should like and how I

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should express myself I don't think that

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I've had any of their like major

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00:42:04,120 --> 00:41:59,570
instances like that but I think why is

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it that we are so influenced you know by

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the attitudes of those around us and I

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00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:08,000
look back I think of dis Coates happy

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00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:10,130
music it's it's not what I would call

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00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,650
deep but how much of heavy metal is

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really deep when you get right down to

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it disco is happy it's great for me to

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work to and I find myself really

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enjoying it these days the country if

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you remember and I know this may freak

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some some people out they didn't go

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00:42:29,470 --> 00:42:27,260
through it but there were you know the

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rock stations across the country we're

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like doing disco record destroying

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things right bringing us your disco

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records we'll run over it with steam

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rollers you know I know it actually

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00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:47,930
really was was going on oh I know I the

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00:42:52,930 --> 00:42:50,750
whole disco sucks thing and and I got

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00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:52,940
sucked into it like you know so many

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00:42:59,290 --> 00:42:54,980
people did and it was just promotions

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00:43:01,720 --> 00:42:59,300
and I get that you know marketing but

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00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:01,730
there was this revolution this whole

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00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:05,510
rock versus disco music thing that was

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00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:08,210
that was fake it was brought on to us by

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00:43:15,580 --> 00:43:10,790
the man well the reality is that disco

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00:43:20,530 --> 00:43:15,590
rocks just like people

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00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:20,540
it was the disco sucks false flag right

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00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:24,230
yeah yeah yeah I wanted to ask you this

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00:43:29,110 --> 00:43:25,780
were actually where I'm gonna start off

786
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:29,120
and and it's and it's this I really

787
00:43:38,530 --> 00:43:33,950
really thoroughly enjoyed your Gaia

788
00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:38,540
false-flag series but but before before

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00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:41,030
you say thank you let me let me say this

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00:43:46,510 --> 00:43:43,460
I didn't know what to expect with it

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00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:46,520
okay now this was for me and I could be

792
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,470
wrong here but this was your first time

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00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:50,000
where you haven't been the guest star

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00:43:54,490 --> 00:43:51,890
you know you haven't you're not the

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00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:54,500
talking now this is your thing this is

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00:44:00,549 --> 00:43:57,690
this is all you and I

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00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:00,559
to save richard that you have really

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00:44:08,299 --> 00:44:05,400
evolved into a communicator where before

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i think people expected you to be the

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black and white pragmatic historian and

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00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:15,299
you spoke that way now you have come

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00:44:20,809 --> 00:44:18,089
into your own and I think Richard Dolan

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00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:20,819
the guy that I know is who is on this

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00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:23,339
show and you've really evolved

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00:44:28,490 --> 00:44:25,049
can you tell do you know what I'm

806
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,500
talking about I don't know maybe I mean

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00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:30,960
all of our life all of our intellectual

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development is evolution it really

809
00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:35,789
honestly is I'm in my 50s now I'm not

810
00:44:42,890 --> 00:44:38,760
where I was in my 30s or my 40s when I

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00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:42,900
broke into the UFO arena almost 20 years

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00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:46,470
ago I was very explicitly going in with

813
00:44:51,049 --> 00:44:49,020
a certain kind of armor and that armor

814
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:51,059
was as a historian who had a factual

815
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:53,849
foundation that he wanted to present to

816
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:56,880
the world a matter of UFOs and I felt

817
00:45:01,279 --> 00:44:58,170
that that was the best way to go forward

818
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,289
with discussing the subject in a very

819
00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:03,359
serious way that would get people's

820
00:45:08,359 --> 00:45:05,720
attention I think that that worked

821
00:45:10,789 --> 00:45:08,369
overall I think that those first two

822
00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:10,799
histories that I wrote UFOs in the

823
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:14,990
national security state were noteworthy

824
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:17,520
at least to readers the impression I get

825
00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:21,450
is because it did appear to be a fairly

826
00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:24,150
objective study that didn't insert a lot

827
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:27,150
of emotion a lot of invective and so on

828
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:29,730
and that I you know it's funny I look

829
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:31,230
back that's the kind of reputation that

830
00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:33,510
I people seem to give me

831
00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:36,599
Dolan's just the facts and so on but the

832
00:45:42,529 --> 00:45:40,950
reality is as well as studying history

833
00:45:44,269 --> 00:45:42,539
my entire life I've studied philosophy

834
00:45:47,299 --> 00:45:44,279
my entire life I've studied literature

835
00:45:49,099 --> 00:45:47,309
my entire life I studied art my entire

836
00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:49,109
life and so there's a lot of different

837
00:45:56,210 --> 00:45:52,140
aspects to what my brain is about what

838
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:56,220
my mind is I've studied esoteric things

839
00:46:00,410 --> 00:45:58,770
for almost my entire life as well and

840
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:00,420
people are sometimes shocked to hear

841
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,440
that but I'm very scientific in my

842
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:06,480
orientation about things but it doesn't

843
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:08,010
mean that I don't study some really

844
00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:10,410
crazy things relating to the false flag

845
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:11,500
series I'm very glad

846
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:15,250
that you like it I appreciate that it's

847
00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:19,210
a yeah I think I'm speaking with a true

848
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:22,270
voice I think that's right but I would

849
00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:24,670
point out that that show is filled with

850
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:29,260
research that I conducted that is every

851
00:46:38,310 --> 00:46:32,490
bit as factually grounded as any UFO

852
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:38,320
research that I've ever done but so I I

853
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,670
don't I don't not sure how to answer

854
00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:41,920
that maybe you and other listeners and

855
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:43,480
readers can answer that question better

856
00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:44,890
than I can to be honest I think it's

857
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:47,620
hard sometimes for a writer or a public

858
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:50,770
person to get a objective view of where

859
00:46:58,770 --> 00:46:53,020
they're at what I can tell you is that

860
00:47:00,660 --> 00:46:58,780
every year every January actually of

861
00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:00,670
every year I always assess where I'm at

862
00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:03,700
intellectually in my research and where

863
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:06,280
I want to go so I'm constantly trying to

864
00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:09,430
read assess reevaluate and go deeper

865
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:11,740
ever deeper with where I'm at I can't

866
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:16,090
ever be satisfied ever with the research

867
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:18,190
that I've done in prior years I'm

868
00:47:24,090 --> 00:47:21,030
constantly trying to move forward and

869
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:24,100
the false flag study which by the way

870
00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:26,470
everything that's in that series on

871
00:47:33,570 --> 00:47:28,630
Gaia's material that I've been writing

872
00:47:35,610 --> 00:47:33,580
for the book that I am working on series

873
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:35,620
I I like to say that you'll you'll love

874
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:36,280
the book as well

875
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:39,790
the alleged book the alleged he right

876
00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:43,510
according to what dolan claims this this

877
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:45,460
book of which he speaks this alleged

878
00:47:50,610 --> 00:47:47,940
book which may or may not occur yes

879
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:50,620
it'll be out in the first half of 2018

880
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:53,200
really looking for dedicated dedicated

881
00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:54,070
to getting it done

882
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:56,230
and the thing is look I want it off my

883
00:48:00,420 --> 00:47:58,810
plate so I can move on to other things

884
00:48:03,810 --> 00:48:00,430
I've got other projects that I

885
00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:03,820
absolutely have piled up and the false

886
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:06,760
flag book nothing happens until the

887
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:12,090
false flag book is done the rumor the

888
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,310
conspiracy theory that has been floated

889
00:48:22,110 --> 00:48:17,680
around probably going back since Reagan

890
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:22,120
did his famous UN speeches about you

891
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,910
know an alien

892
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:24,400
[Music]

893
00:48:30,990 --> 00:48:27,700
a situation here to unite earth there's

894
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:31,000
been this theory floated around in our

895
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:34,810
circles about an alien invasion being

896
00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:38,410
used as a false flag now and I know this

897
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:42,460
is a strange segue but it is a real one

898
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:46,480
and this is a theory that is has got a

899
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:47,440
lot of teeth

900
00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:50,430
to it what do you think about that

901
00:48:55,740 --> 00:48:52,440
actually I don't agree with that and

902
00:48:58,740 --> 00:48:55,750
I've been dealing with this rumor these

903
00:49:00,270 --> 00:48:58,750
claims for many years I think I'll be

904
00:49:03,150 --> 00:49:00,280
honest with you and I'm not including

905
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:03,160
you in this when I'm so please don't

906
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:04,330
take it the wrong way but I think a lot

907
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:06,550
of irresponsible people have been

908
00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:08,530
spreading rumors like this for a long

909
00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:09,880
time mmm-hmm

910
00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:13,420
without evidence I mean zero evidence

911
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,180
every time I hear any kind of claim it's

912
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:18,160
based on some kind of anonymous inside

913
00:49:21,870 --> 00:49:19,450
source and no one ever knows who these

914
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:21,880
people are right now I can tell you the

915
00:49:26,610 --> 00:49:24,310
original version of this theory this

916
00:49:29,820 --> 00:49:26,620
false flag alien invasion derived

917
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:29,830
ultimately from a deceased man from

918
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:33,370
Quebec named Serge Moe Nast I did a lot

919
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:35,020
of study of this guy and in fact I wrote

920
00:49:39,450 --> 00:49:36,370
an article about him a few years ago

921
00:49:42,540 --> 00:49:39,460
it's it's um cabin on my side it's you

922
00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:42,550
could google it and it's on Project Blue

923
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:45,430
Beam that's the original iteration of

924
00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:49,690
this theory Moe Nast was um didn't

925
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:51,460
really seem to get out of his house very

926
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:53,050
much to be honest with you it's writing

927
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:55,090
in the early nineties claimed I've had a

928
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:57,010
connection at NASA of all places this

929
00:50:01,170 --> 00:49:58,480
guy lived in Quebec I don't even think

930
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:01,180
he spoke English at all but he claimed

931
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:02,800
to have a connection at NASA who told

932
00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:06,130
him that the New World Order was going

933
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:09,400
to create a false flag that musette

934
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:11,650
phrase but like holographic displays in

935
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:13,960
the sky to convince people of the second

936
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,510
coming of Christ Moniz was a very devout

937
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:18,880
Christian and this is the first version

938
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:23,200
of this idea so through the 90s he

939
00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:28,390
promoted this idea that near 2000 y2k

940
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:30,580
which a lot of people worked up over was

941
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:32,910
going to be an alien invasion but a

942
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:36,010
second coming of Jesus false flag

943
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:37,330
and when you really think about the

944
00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:39,300
logic of this it's utterly ludicrous

945
00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:41,940
it's it's been should be beneath

946
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:45,880
contempt but yet people buy into it

947
00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:47,740
the technology how would this happen how

948
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:49,990
do you convince a world of people who

949
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:52,210
are not Christians that this is a big

950
00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:55,270
thing how do you convince scientists and

951
00:51:02,430 --> 00:50:57,790
millions of skeptical and hostile

952
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:02,440
scientists as well and anyway it was

953
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:05,470
nonsense and Montez died and then the

954
00:51:11,850 --> 00:51:08,740
whole idea morphed into UFO thing by the

955
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:11,860
early 2000s and then instead of the

956
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:14,170
second coming of Jesus it was a fake

957
00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:16,870
alien invasion displays in the sky and

958
00:51:23,730 --> 00:51:19,600
again I would ask you or any listener to

959
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:23,740
just ask yourself how how stupid are

960
00:51:29,970 --> 00:51:26,170
people really supposed to be like so you

961
00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:29,980
pretend to have an alien invasion are

962
00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:34,030
you gonna get away with it simply by by

963
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:36,520
telling people without showing them

964
00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:39,010
aliens in the sky now here's another

965
00:51:45,090 --> 00:51:43,480
thing you create a fake one of your you

966
00:51:47,010 --> 00:51:45,100
know breakaway civilization ships and

967
00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:47,020
blow up the Empire State Building or

968
00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:52,150
blow up the Kremlin I mean that's a hell

969
00:51:58,110 --> 00:51:54,550
of a logistical nightmare for anyone to

970
00:51:59,730 --> 00:51:58,120
pull off and I'm extremely skeptical and

971
00:52:01,740 --> 00:51:59,740
for what purpose

972
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:01,750
to implement the global fascist New

973
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:03,250
World Order which is already happening

974
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:06,970
all around us every single day I can

975
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,670
tell you right now this is there way too

976
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:11,920
many loose ends 9/11 was hard enough for

977
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:13,660
those people what we're talking about a

978
00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:16,690
fake alien invasion there's no logic in

979
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:19,630
my mind and but most importantly I've

980
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:23,530
never seen a single shred of evidence or

981
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:27,010
even even quasi evidence that people can

982
00:52:29,460 --> 00:52:28,480
point to they just go in there hunch at

983
00:52:32,250 --> 00:52:29,470
what they believe is going to happen

984
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:32,260
without providing any reason and I think

985
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:33,190
we deserve better than that

986
00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:36,010
so I don't support the idea of a false

987
00:52:41,540 --> 00:52:38,260
flag alien invasion now I do think that

988
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:46,930
filled with false flag II kinds of

989
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:50,310
things like there's been lies about UFOs

990
00:52:54,740 --> 00:52:51,720
since the beginning of course has been

991
00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:54,750
disinformation in the UFO field from the

992
00:52:59,180 --> 00:52:55,980
beginning there have been and I'm

993
00:53:03,470 --> 00:52:59,190
convinced to this day individuals that

994
00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:03,480
are either on some payroll whose purpose

995
00:53:09,110 --> 00:53:07,260
is to dis inform or unknowingly being

996
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:09,120
promoted by those very interests because

997
00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:11,130
they're off the deep end or they have an

998
00:53:17,420 --> 00:53:13,790
ego trip or whatever it is and they're

999
00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:17,430
being used for those purposes anyway so

1000
00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:20,040
there's always been disinfo spewing into

1001
00:53:24,970 --> 00:53:22,020
the UFO field and for a good reason

1002
00:53:28,340 --> 00:53:24,980
because the UFO subject is important and

1003
00:53:31,610 --> 00:53:28,350
it's important for those people who are

1004
00:53:34,070 --> 00:53:31,620
managing that secret to keep all of us

1005
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:34,080
off-balance and they're really good at

1006
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:37,650
that you know it's really not that

1007
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:39,390
difficult you've got a field that's as

1008
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:42,090
wide open as our own everyone's got

1009
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:43,800
access to a microphone everyone's got

1010
00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:44,790
access to YouTube

1011
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:48,120
everyone's doing interviews and if you

1012
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:49,710
know you wanted to bring a crazy person

1013
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:52,110
in or an irresponsible liar into the

1014
00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:53,670
field just put them in front of a

1015
00:53:57,590 --> 00:53:55,260
microphone and there'll be people always

1016
00:54:02,120 --> 00:53:57,600
people to listen to them so just

1017
00:54:03,350 --> 00:54:02,130
information is almost the norm in our

1018
00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:03,360
field and it's really making it

1019
00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:06,900
difficult for those of us to to continue

1020
00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:08,760
doing responsible research and to move

1021
00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:11,430
ahead I try and there's a lot of other

1022
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:13,500
good people out there doing good UFO

1023
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:16,170
research so um we'll keep doing what we

1024
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:19,410
do but false flag alien invasion no I

1025
00:54:27,310 --> 00:54:21,570
not buying it now I'll say this last

1026
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:27,320
thing I'll say on this is if tomorrow

1027
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:29,640
President Trump were to say there's an

1028
00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:32,910
alien invasion I would say that's a

1029
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:37,020
false flag if a president or any any

1030
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:38,640
president could have been Obama if any

1031
00:54:42,290 --> 00:54:40,530
president we're to say that there's an

1032
00:54:44,750 --> 00:54:42,300
alien invasion I'd be like okay that's a

1033
00:54:46,610 --> 00:54:44,760
lie that's a false flag but it's not

1034
00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:46,620
going to happen they're not going to go

1035
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:49,380
down that road because again it's it's a

1036
00:54:55,220 --> 00:54:53,250
matter of you can convince they can

1037
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:55,230
convince your neighbors and my neighbors

1038
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:56,970
they can convince people who have no

1039
00:55:02,930 --> 00:54:59,760
education they can convince people who

1040
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:02,940
are prone to believing anything that the

1041
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:04,290
mainstream media tells them but there's

1042
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:07,760
a lot of people in this world who have

1043
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:10,980
are in positions of power who strongly

1044
00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:13,170
disbelieve in this and they're gonna

1045
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:14,520
need something a little bit more than a

1046
00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:17,250
light show to convince them that there's

1047
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:19,859
actually something going on so no I I

1048
00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:21,030
just don't buy it unless you want to

1049
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:24,900
kill all the scientists or bribe them

1050
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:28,079
off millions of them and it's just it's

1051
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:29,730
just too much to ask my opinion

1052
00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:32,910
well okay then what about Project Blue

1053
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:37,470
Beam well I talked about it I think Blue

1054
00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:40,890
Beam you know came out of the mind of

1055
00:55:46,750 --> 00:55:42,750
ceremony asked who I think personally

1056
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:46,760
was a bit deranged he was a fanatical

1057
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,500
evangelical Christian and I'm not trying

1058
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:51,599
to insult people or devout Christians

1059
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,359
but there are fanatical evangelical

1060
00:55:58,190 --> 00:55:55,680
Christians in this world he was one of

1061
00:56:01,520 --> 00:55:58,200
them he had a very strong belief system

1062
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:01,530
and wrapped his entire blue beam

1063
00:56:06,980 --> 00:56:04,410
scenario around that belief system again

1064
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:06,990
providing no evidence for it his idea

1065
00:56:12,109 --> 00:56:09,450
morphed as I said into this idea of an

1066
00:56:16,790 --> 00:56:12,119
alien invasion which again similarly has

1067
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:16,800
had no evidence to support it so I mean

1068
00:56:20,359 --> 00:56:18,359
you know there's people like dr. Carol

1069
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:20,369
rosin who's a friend of mine I like

1070
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:22,740
Carol and she's talked often about her

1071
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:25,079
encounter with dr. Verner von Braun the

1072
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:27,810
end of his life in the 1970s I have

1073
00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:29,430
every reason to believe Carol a hundred

1074
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:31,020
percent on this and she said when when

1075
00:56:34,819 --> 00:56:33,210
Brown was nearing me and he was dying of

1076
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:34,829
cancer he said Herr Carol they're gonna

1077
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:38,040
do first they're gonna lie and tell you

1078
00:56:43,849 --> 00:56:41,130
that was it

1079
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:43,859
the Communists are the threat then

1080
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they're gonna blame the terrorists and

1081
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:47,940
they're going to blame an asteroid and

1082
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:49,500
then they're gonna talk about aliens as

1083
00:56:56,809 --> 00:56:53,010
a way to work people up to get them to

1084
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:56,819
obey now I'm not saying when Brown

1085
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:00,000
didn't say it but the fact that Verna

1086
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:04,170
von Braun said this to Carol rosin 40

1087
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:07,170
years ago doesn't really mean that von

1088
00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,910
Braun had the keys to the king

1089
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,920
even even then he was an important

1090
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:12,960
scientist but you don't know and I don't

1091
00:57:16,820 --> 00:57:15,330
know what von Braun really knew was he

1092
00:57:20,090 --> 00:57:16,830
just spouting off his opinion was he

1093
00:57:21,590 --> 00:57:20,100
angry was he what was it I don't know I

1094
00:57:23,570 --> 00:57:21,600
don't know what the situation was I mean

1095
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:23,580
we've turned this into some like holy

1096
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:26,730
dogma that oh my god von Braun said this

1097
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:28,170
so therefore it has to be exactly true

1098
00:57:36,850 --> 00:57:32,970
right and you know it's a like that with

1099
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:36,860
a lot of things in this field but so

1100
00:57:43,550 --> 00:57:41,970
lies abound in our world lies abound

1101
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:43,560
from our government no matter who is in

1102
00:57:51,290 --> 00:57:46,650
power it's just the way it is so we

1103
00:57:54,670 --> 00:57:51,300
can't trust the United States national

1104
00:57:57,110 --> 00:57:54,680
security structure for anything anything

1105
00:57:59,900 --> 00:57:57,120
they have an agenda that's really

1106
00:58:04,430 --> 00:57:59,910
dangerous for the world and for ordinary

1107
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,440
people but you know so expect them to do

1108
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:06,000
false flags and expect them to lie about

1109
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:08,010
UFOs but to do a false flag galleon

1110
00:58:15,020 --> 00:58:10,110
invasion I don't think we're there

1111
00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:15,030
it is so easy to start a rumor a theory

1112
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:18,630
or an agenda today right it's just it's

1113
00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:20,790
way too easy for anybody to do like you

1114
00:58:25,730 --> 00:58:22,740
said anybody with a microphone computer

1115
00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:25,740
chat room form your office pretty much

1116
00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:29,460
anybody anybody can do it and we've got

1117
00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:32,190
a slew of things that have been floating

1118
00:58:38,750 --> 00:58:34,800
around for a long time and one of those

1119
00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:38,760
is that we got the Iraqi army to

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00:58:43,790 --> 00:58:40,860
surrender as quickly as we did because

1121
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:43,800
we were you know showing images up in

1122
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:48,720
the sky of Muhammad or Allah and and

1123
00:58:54,110 --> 00:58:50,910
they just freaked out and and and turn

1124
00:58:58,370 --> 00:58:54,120
into and now that that actually could be

1125
00:59:00,080 --> 00:58:58,380
true what is definitely true relating to

1126
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:00,090
the persian gulf war going back to the

1127
00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:03,570
early 90s 25 plus years ago that's right

1128
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:06,900
yes even back then was was expert users

1129
00:59:12,550 --> 00:59:08,730
of what you might call acoustic weapon

1130
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:12,560
ring so these would be things that would

1131
00:59:18,260 --> 00:59:15,630
you know an electromagnetic types of

1132
00:59:19,820 --> 00:59:18,270
weapons and and then of course I think

1133
00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:19,830
they were way more advanced than oh

1134
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:22,260
three oh four when they were going in so

1135
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:22,680
in other word

1136
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:27,990
using different technologies to disable

1137
00:59:33,110 --> 00:59:31,050
your your target intellectually disabled

1138
00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:33,120
them cognitively disabled them no that's

1139
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:35,790
an that's a major thing that the US

1140
00:59:41,390 --> 00:59:38,910
military does now did they use images of

1141
00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:41,400
Muhammad I don't know if that would have

1142
00:59:45,650 --> 00:59:42,630
been effective to be honest with you

1143
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:45,660
because in Islam as anyone with the

1144
00:59:50,810 --> 00:59:49,170
basic knowledge knows it is forbidden to

1145
00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:50,820
have any depictions of the Prophet and

1146
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:53,100
so why would they happen to know what he

1147
00:59:57,350 --> 00:59:55,110
looked like I mean they wouldn't there's

1148
01:00:01,100 --> 00:59:57,360
no there's no image of Muhammad like

1149
01:00:03,020 --> 01:00:01,110
there are popular images of Jesus that a

1150
01:00:04,940 --> 01:00:03,030
Muslim would say oh well yeah that's

1151
01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:04,950
Muhammad so I don't see how that would

1152
01:00:09,230 --> 01:00:06,750
really work frankly and if and if the

1153
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:09,240
American military did that frankly that

1154
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:11,310
seems kind of stupid but what they would

1155
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:15,200
do are different types of electronic

1156
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:21,450
measures that would be directed at like

1157
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,210
the enemy biological organism like

1158
01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:26,240
against their their brains against their

1159
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:29,400
to disrupt them so that that's a real

1160
01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:32,130
technology do you think that it was

1161
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:34,200
actually used though and the reason why

1162
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:35,970
I'm bringing that up is because there's

1163
01:00:43,150 --> 01:00:39,030
the other stories about finding of a

1164
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:43,160
mana and a cave in Afghanistan or or a

1165
01:00:51,950 --> 01:00:48,720
Stargate in in in in in Iraq these

1166
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:51,960
things have a way of developing legs and

1167
01:00:57,050 --> 01:00:55,200
and continuing and not going away well

1168
01:00:59,090 --> 01:00:57,060
some some of these rumors to me anyway

1169
01:01:01,100 --> 01:00:59,100
are more believable and others so the

1170
01:01:02,540 --> 01:01:01,110
idea of using acoustic weaponry to

1171
01:01:03,950 --> 01:01:02,550
disable the opponent that's very

1172
01:01:06,890 --> 01:01:03,960
believable because we know what the

1173
01:01:09,530 --> 01:01:06,900
technology is and it exists and it's now

1174
01:01:12,530 --> 01:01:09,540
being augmented and modified for

1175
01:01:16,370 --> 01:01:12,540
domestic crowd control and the like so

1176
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,380
that's that's a real thing as far as

1177
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:18,960
stargates I mean I rolled friend the

1178
01:01:22,340 --> 01:01:19,710
late Jim Marrs

1179
01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:22,350
I used to talk about this for a while I

1180
01:01:27,260 --> 01:01:25,020
don't know if he continued to but I I

1181
01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:27,270
chatted with Jim about he believed I

1182
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:29,790
think that there is something like a

1183
01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:32,220
Stargate that was found in Iraq and that

1184
01:01:37,820 --> 01:01:36,180
this was the actual reason for the the

1185
01:01:39,790 --> 01:01:37,830
the second Iraqi war the one that really

1186
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:39,800
destroyed Iraq in no.3 no.4

1187
01:01:45,350 --> 01:01:43,290
I don't know that this is true as much

1188
01:01:47,450 --> 01:01:45,360
as I respected Jim and miss him to this

1189
01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:47,460
day I don't know that that's true and I

1190
01:01:52,820 --> 01:01:49,980
don't really know where the data is on

1191
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:52,830
this and it's a harder it's a bit of a

1192
01:01:57,170 --> 01:01:55,110
hurdle more of a hurdle for me doesn't

1193
01:02:03,680 --> 01:01:57,180
mean it's impossible but I just don't

1194
01:02:05,630 --> 01:02:03,690
know that it's true the vimana I got

1195
01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:05,640
some real problems with Vimanas stories

1196
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:08,640
in Afghanistan as I have with a lot of

1197
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:11,310
claims about Vimanas in general it's

1198
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:13,710
funny after my book UFOs for the 21st

1199
01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:15,570
century mine came out came out I did an

1200
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:19,460
interview with Kerry Cassidy and the

1201
01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:23,370
first question she just jumped out at me

1202
01:02:27,740 --> 01:02:24,900
it says why do you not believe in

1203
01:02:29,570 --> 01:02:27,750
Vimanas I was like Kerry I have a 4 to

1204
01:02:31,060 --> 01:02:29,580
60 page book I just wrote and this is

1205
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:31,070
like the one thing you're jumping on

1206
01:02:37,010 --> 01:02:35,250
what I said though there's you know if

1207
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:37,020
we look at Vimanas there's you got the

1208
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:38,520
mahabharata and you've got the ROM

1209
01:02:43,070 --> 01:02:41,610
Ramayana in the ancient Vedic texts and

1210
01:02:44,930 --> 01:02:43,080
they do talk extensively about these

1211
01:02:48,350 --> 01:02:44,940
things called Vimanas which were you

1212
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:48,360
could say Chariots of the Gods but I did

1213
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:52,410
point out in that book and that most

1214
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:54,000
people who talk about Vimanas are

1215
01:03:00,020 --> 01:02:56,730
actually referring to a spurious text

1216
01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:00,030
known as a Vaman iike Shastra and that

1217
01:03:06,290 --> 01:03:03,150
was channeled actually in the late 19th

1218
01:03:08,090 --> 01:03:06,300
century and it has been taken as an

1219
01:03:10,070 --> 01:03:08,100
authentic amount of text and it is not

1220
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:10,080
is anything but that and that's the

1221
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:11,640
amount of text that talks about all the

1222
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:15,240
technical elements of Vimanas and all

1223
01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:17,730
the technology of how to create a vimana

1224
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:20,700
and the fact that has mercury and so

1225
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:23,010
forth right that's really channeled from

1226
01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:25,110
just a little over one century ago so

1227
01:03:30,050 --> 01:03:27,780
it's not authentic Vedic ancient text it

1228
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:30,060
has nothing to do with the vimana

1229
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:32,730
traditions that existed in those texts

1230
01:03:39,770 --> 01:03:36,450
so I I mean as a responsible research it

1231
01:03:42,650 --> 01:03:39,780
has to be discounted sorry but it's just

1232
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:42,660
it's not authentic now someone can say

1233
01:03:46,210 --> 01:03:44,610
well it's authentic Channel and you can

1234
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:46,220
believe it or not but

1235
01:03:51,610 --> 01:03:49,850
that's I I'm not going there so my

1236
01:03:57,070 --> 01:03:51,620
attitude about Vimanas is there's been a

1237
01:03:59,590 --> 01:03:57,080
lot that has been taken about the

1238
01:04:01,950 --> 01:03:59,600
Vimanas that I think is not legit on top

1239
01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:01,960
of that there's a lot of bad

1240
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:04,640
translations that were done in the in

1241
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:07,130
the 50s and 60s on these ancient Indian

1242
01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:10,010
texts including the claim that there was

1243
01:04:15,130 --> 01:04:12,910
an ancient nuclear explosion in India

1244
01:04:16,540 --> 01:04:15,140
thousands of years ago which people have

1245
01:04:19,870 --> 01:04:16,550
heard about and that's all based on just

1246
01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:19,880
bad translations so I want to be really

1247
01:04:23,590 --> 01:04:21,500
careful I have been looking for the

1248
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:23,600
longest time for a really good vedic

1249
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:26,930
scholar like a good legitimate vedic

1250
01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:30,530
scholar to go over all of the instances

1251
01:04:37,030 --> 01:04:33,380
of Vimanas in the Mahabharata and the

1252
01:04:38,770 --> 01:04:37,040
Ramayana which are vastly longer than

1253
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:38,780
even Homer's Iliad or any ancient

1254
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:42,290
Texican a minute or a huge huge hum and

1255
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:44,720
I just I don't know of an Vedic scholar

1256
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:46,640
who would be willing to do it but I

1257
01:04:51,490 --> 01:04:49,280
would love to connect with them and and

1258
01:04:53,410 --> 01:04:51,500
have them to do some work on this the

1259
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:53,420
guy is Michael Cremo

1260
01:04:58,540 --> 01:04:55,730
that that's who you want Michael Cremo

1261
01:05:01,360 --> 01:04:58,550
is the dude let's take a break right

1262
01:05:03,630 --> 01:05:01,370
here and I'm wondering once again where

1263
01:05:06,790 --> 01:05:03,640
is my audio

1264
01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:06,800
it's just trippy around here Richard I

1265
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don't know what it is that's me no no no

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I'm talking about my music my musics not

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queuing on time our guest tonight

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01:09:46,710 --> 01:09:44,920
our guest is Richard Dolan and I've got

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01:09:48,180 --> 01:09:46,720
a little bit of breaking news here and

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01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:48,190
some want to put a damper on the show

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01:09:57,570 --> 01:09:54,480
but David Cassidy has died he was 67 and

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01:10:00,570 --> 01:09:57,580
there you go talking you know about our

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01:10:05,070 --> 01:10:00,580
childhood right Richard and David I'm

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01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,080
very sad to hear that the 67 man 67

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01:10:08,670 --> 01:10:07,120
years old man

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:08,680
you know I don't know if you had a

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01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:11,170
sister but growing up you know I had an

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01:10:15,930 --> 01:10:13,270
older sister and her bedroom was

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:15,940
plastered with David Cassidy posters Oh

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01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:18,610
mind you I have a sister who's three

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:22,330
years younger than me and she David

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01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:24,730
Cassidy Sean Cassidy and all the other

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:31,630
team beat Donny Osmond unbelievable

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01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:35,410
David Cassidy 67 years old okay this is

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01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:39,430
the the the UFO question I think that

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01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:44,860
today more so than ever in history this

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01:10:49,950 --> 01:10:47,380
question being brought to is every

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01:10:51,930 --> 01:10:49,960
single day by the mass media and and

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01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:51,940
other organizations about the

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01:10:59,210 --> 01:10:54,580
possibility of alien life and exoplanets

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:10:59,220
and fast radio bursts in and contact and

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01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:03,130
all of these Dyson spheres and and so

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01:11:08,180 --> 01:11:05,080
forth it is something that has talked

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01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:08,190
about every single day we are this week

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01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:10,510
was about two weeks ago but it was

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01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:12,340
brought up again yesterday the first

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01:11:18,270 --> 01:11:15,370
interstellar object right as passing

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01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,280
through our solar system and it is

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01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:20,800
taking this dramatic turn and is now

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01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:23,170
leaving the solar system but it did a

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01:11:30,540 --> 01:11:27,310
did a flyby you know by our Sun and

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01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:30,550
Earth very interesting or the object

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:34,300
itself is pretty trippy as as it has

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:38,890
been described but what is it that what

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01:11:43,050 --> 01:11:41,650
is it that the government knows I mean

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01:11:44,669 --> 01:11:43,060
that's the question that's on the front

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01:11:48,899 --> 01:11:44,679
of everybody's mind what

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01:11:52,319 --> 01:11:48,909
is it that they know is it does it go as

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01:11:55,799 --> 01:11:52,329
far as you know retrieved and crashed

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01:11:59,790 --> 01:11:55,809
craft you know alien bodies and direct

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01:12:03,569 --> 01:11:59,800
contact you know what is it that they

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01:12:05,219 --> 01:12:03,579
know well they surely we say they let's

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01:12:06,810 --> 01:12:05,229
talk about those people in the

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01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:06,820
government who are actually in the know

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01:12:10,919 --> 01:12:09,340
because most government and even most

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01:12:14,699 --> 01:12:10,929
people in the classified world are not

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01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:14,709
in the know about this we those people

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01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:16,300
who have deeply researched this matter

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01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:18,550
we all understand the subject is on what

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01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:20,800
is known as a need-to-know basis so for

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01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:23,860
that very tiny elite group of people who

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01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:25,840
understand this yes they have recovered

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01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:28,719
crash UFOs absolutely they have the

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01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:31,920
evidence for that is actually

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01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,360
overwhelming and we're not simply

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01:12:41,929 --> 01:12:36,400
talking about Roswell oh the Roswell

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01:12:44,879 --> 01:12:41,939
case is a really good one but there are

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01:12:49,259 --> 01:12:44,889
almost certainly have been a number of

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01:12:51,029 --> 01:12:49,269
other very very good UFO cases that

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:51,039
we've now over the years have been

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01:12:54,839 --> 01:12:53,170
uncovering I think the Roswell case is a

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01:12:59,250 --> 01:12:54,849
good one but there is cape girardeau and

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:12:59,260
Missouri in 1941 there is the Aztec New

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01:13:05,759 --> 01:13:04,090
Mexico case of 1948 which was a case

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01:13:07,319 --> 01:13:05,769
that was I think a lot of people

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01:13:12,140 --> 01:13:07,329
debunked it for many years but I think

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01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:12,150
has rightly been resurrected

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01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,920
resuscitated as a case by uh Scott and

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01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:16,239
Suzanne Ramsey who did excellent

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01:13:20,819 --> 01:13:18,550
research on this and and there have been

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01:13:22,620 --> 01:13:20,829
others there's a very I think a

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01:13:26,759 --> 01:13:22,630
reasonably good case that a UFO went

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01:13:29,219 --> 01:13:26,769
down outside Las Vegas in 1962 the

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:29,229
researcher Kevin Randle did some very

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01:13:33,779 --> 01:13:31,449
good work on this and I think it's very

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01:13:37,259 --> 01:13:33,789
good stuff there's other cases in the

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01:13:39,029 --> 01:13:37,269
1950s in the US and out of the u.s. that

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01:13:42,179 --> 01:13:39,039
appear to have been crash retrievals and

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01:13:43,729 --> 01:13:42,189
not all of them have the best of

1423
01:13:46,979 --> 01:13:43,739
strongest evidence but there's enough

1424
01:13:48,839 --> 01:13:46,989
pointing to a lot of them that I think

1425
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:48,849
it's very likely to assume that yes

1426
01:13:51,709 --> 01:13:50,380
there been a number of these and it's

1427
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:51,719
important to mention this because

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01:13:56,500 --> 01:13:54,159
without the idea of a crash retrieval

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01:13:58,930 --> 01:13:56,510
it's very possible for

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01:14:01,660 --> 01:13:58,940
a skeptic or an apologist for the

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01:14:03,879 --> 01:14:01,670
government to say well you know maybe

1432
01:14:05,620 --> 01:14:03,889
there's a phenomenon out there but to

1433
01:14:07,299 --> 01:14:05,630
talk about a conspiracy is ridiculous

1434
01:14:09,310 --> 01:14:07,309
because the government just they're

1435
01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:09,320
incompetent but they're not they're not

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01:14:12,370 --> 01:14:11,030
diabolical the way you're you're saying

1437
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,380
they just don't know what they're doing

1438
01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:14,719
and it's possible to make that argument

1439
01:14:20,140 --> 01:14:17,030
if if there's no evidence of actual

1440
01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:20,150
physical contact or crash retrievals but

1441
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:23,329
once you have a good case that military

1442
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:26,090
personnel have recovered tangible

1443
01:14:31,959 --> 01:14:29,510
objects and bodies and this does seem to

1444
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:31,969
be the case then you can't just say well

1445
01:14:38,169 --> 01:14:35,050
they're ignorant Lee you know mindlessly

1446
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:38,179
denying a reality there instead they're

1447
01:14:40,989 --> 01:14:39,650
actively covering it up and it's an

1448
01:14:43,810 --> 01:14:40,999
important reality that they're covering

1449
01:14:45,310 --> 01:14:43,820
up on top of that like any researcher

1450
01:14:49,859 --> 01:14:45,320
who's been doing this long enough myself

1451
01:14:53,049 --> 01:14:49,869
included him spoken to so many

1452
01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:53,059
responsible military government people

1453
01:14:57,729 --> 01:14:55,070
who have talked about genuine UFO

1454
01:14:59,109 --> 01:14:57,739
encounters so forget the crash

1455
01:15:02,919 --> 01:14:59,119
retrievals for a moment there's just

1456
01:15:05,319 --> 01:15:02,929
been an overabundance of extremely well

1457
01:15:08,799 --> 01:15:05,329
documented UFO encounters that we have

1458
01:15:13,089 --> 01:15:08,809
had since the nineteen before the 1940s

1459
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:13,099
frankly but since the 40s for sure so so

1460
01:15:18,459 --> 01:15:16,249
that's going on and it's been very very

1461
01:15:24,910 --> 01:15:18,469
clearly documented in my work as well as

1462
01:15:27,969 --> 01:15:24,920
other work that it's been a very strong

1463
01:15:30,549 --> 01:15:27,979
concern by military agencies to keep

1464
01:15:33,959 --> 01:15:30,559
this quiet and they did a good job for a

1465
01:15:36,609 --> 01:15:33,969
long time about keeping it quiet but

1466
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,619
documents are out you can read them I

1467
01:15:39,069 --> 01:15:38,239
can read them anyone listening can read

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01:15:41,500 --> 01:15:39,079
them they're from the Freedom of

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01:15:44,140 --> 01:15:41,510
Information Act they're not make-believe

1470
01:15:45,759 --> 01:15:44,150
they're legitimate they're real they

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01:15:48,219 --> 01:15:45,769
have statements by General Nathan

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01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:48,229
twining in 1947 stating that the

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01:15:52,989 --> 01:15:50,510
phenomenon is real not visionary or

1474
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:52,999
fictitious as a direct quote from a man

1475
01:15:56,859 --> 01:15:54,409
who later became chief of staff of the

1476
01:15:59,500 --> 01:15:56,869
US Air Force who wrote about these

1477
01:16:01,600 --> 01:15:59,510
objects having extreme rates of climb

1478
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:01,610
and maneuverability and evasive action

1479
01:16:07,540 --> 01:16:03,920
and how they are circular or elliptical

1480
01:16:10,189 --> 01:16:07,550
in shape flat on bottom and domed on top

1481
01:16:12,140 --> 01:16:10,199
I mean good grief in 1947

1482
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:12,150
what is flat on bottom and domed on top

1483
01:16:18,979 --> 01:16:16,320
we're talking about military reports so

1484
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:18,989
now that was classified information at

1485
01:16:24,650 --> 01:16:22,770
the time it came out during our moment

1486
01:16:26,150 --> 01:16:24,660
in American history when the Freedom of

1487
01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:26,160
Information Act was actually worth

1488
01:16:30,650 --> 01:16:28,590
something and it was something new and a

1489
01:16:34,220 --> 01:16:30,660
lot of documents came out in the late

1490
01:16:36,169 --> 01:16:34,230
1970s that was one of them it is an

1491
01:16:39,530 --> 01:16:36,179
undeniable document and it's only one of

1492
01:16:40,910 --> 01:16:39,540
many many many that prove they don't

1493
01:16:43,250 --> 01:16:40,920
suggest they don't hint but they proved

1494
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:43,260
that the United States classified world

1495
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:45,570
has been deeply interested I there's a

1496
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:48,560
memo from early 1949 in the FBI

1497
01:16:54,110 --> 01:16:51,210
discussing how the matter of UFOs is

1498
01:16:56,209 --> 01:16:54,120
considered top-secret by intelligence

1499
01:16:59,209 --> 01:16:56,219
officers of the US military and then

1500
01:17:01,610 --> 01:16:59,219
talking onward in this particular memo

1501
01:17:04,850 --> 01:17:01,620
about how there been unbelievable

1502
01:17:06,620 --> 01:17:04,860
sightings over sensitive American

1503
01:17:09,290 --> 01:17:06,630
installations like the Atomic Energy

1504
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,300
Commission nuclear plants at Los Alamos

1505
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:12,239
for example or that's not a nuclear

1506
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:14,000
plant but the Atomic Energy Commission

1507
01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:16,080
installation at Los Alamos which is a

1508
01:17:20,209 --> 01:17:17,880
big deal and there were nuclear

1509
01:17:22,700 --> 01:17:20,219
facilities and Oak Ridge and in Hanford

1510
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:22,710
state of Washington that had overflights

1511
01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:26,610
of incredible I mean UFOs all through

1512
01:17:32,030 --> 01:17:28,920
the 50s and we know about it we know

1513
01:17:33,970 --> 01:17:32,040
about it because again an accident of

1514
01:17:37,250 --> 01:17:33,980
history the Freedom of Information Act

1515
01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:37,260
proved it by having certain documents

1516
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:40,830
released there was a airspace violation

1517
01:17:45,470 --> 01:17:42,719
that I think is one of the most

1518
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:45,480
interesting documents from 1950 back in

1519
01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:49,250
the July of 1950 which talked about how

1520
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:52,020
objects round in form were being seen

1521
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:53,850
over the Hanford Atomic Energy

1522
01:17:59,390 --> 01:17:56,850
Commission plant these are America's

1523
01:18:01,580 --> 01:17:59,400
most important facilities at the time

1524
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:01,590
they were doing nuclear energy in an era

1525
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:04,080
where that was a brand-new cutting-edge

1526
01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:07,410
form of energy the memo stated Air Force

1527
01:18:11,390 --> 01:18:09,030
jets attempted to intercept with

1528
01:18:13,729 --> 01:18:11,400
negative results they talked about

1529
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:13,739
anti-aircraft battalions and radar units

1530
01:18:19,490 --> 01:18:15,690
and Air Force fighter squadrons being

1531
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:19,500
alerted for this I mean again putting

1532
01:18:23,490 --> 01:18:22,410
oneself into context in 1950 and knowing

1533
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:23,500
that this happened you have to

1534
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:27,310
good grief what was going on and that is

1535
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:30,610
only one of countless other documents

1536
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:32,680
that we have so to answer your question

1537
01:18:38,010 --> 01:18:34,300
what does the government know well they

1538
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:38,020
know enough all right people in the US

1539
01:18:42,180 --> 01:18:40,690
military and allied militaries and a non

1540
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:42,190
allied military is like Russia and China

1541
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:44,800
they know enough that this is a

1542
01:18:50,340 --> 01:18:47,250
phenomenon that is beyond their control

1543
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:50,350
that does what it does they can't stop

1544
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:53,170
it and that's the end of it they just

1545
01:18:58,050 --> 01:18:56,290
can't stop it they've recovered some of

1546
01:18:59,310 --> 01:18:58,060
these things they don't want to tell the

1547
01:19:01,050 --> 01:18:59,320
public about it they've got their

1548
01:19:03,229 --> 01:19:01,060
reasons but we have our reasons as well

1549
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:03,239
for wanting to know the truth

1550
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:05,650
that's where we're at yeah this is

1551
01:19:11,959 --> 01:19:08,050
what's fascinating for me Richard is you

1552
01:19:17,780 --> 01:19:11,969
know 100 years ago or there abouts

1553
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:17,790
this planet lit up radio signals

1554
01:19:23,670 --> 01:19:21,090
television signals have now been

1555
01:19:25,709 --> 01:19:23,680
emanating from this planet going out at

1556
01:19:29,250 --> 01:19:25,719
the speed of light for a hundred years

1557
01:19:34,530 --> 01:19:29,260
that means planets that are a hundred

1558
01:19:36,330 --> 01:19:34,540
light years away are aware of us right

1559
01:19:39,209 --> 01:19:36,340
if there is intelligent life there if

1560
01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:39,219
you cut that time in half you know 50

1561
01:19:43,170 --> 01:19:41,350
years out 50 years back if they were

1562
01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:43,180
traveling to us at the speed of light

1563
01:19:53,670 --> 01:19:49,980
let's say now that whole 1947 1950 wave

1564
01:19:55,890 --> 01:19:53,680
you know because 50 years prior to that

1565
01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:55,900
you have Edison and Marconi and Tesla

1566
01:20:02,729 --> 01:19:58,449
doing freakish things at high voltages

1567
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:02,739
right and so this is this is taking off

1568
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:05,650
from Earth at the speed of light heading

1569
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:07,870
out into the universe we now have let

1570
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:11,610
them know our level of technology

1571
01:20:18,030 --> 01:20:15,250
certainly once they got here in the

1572
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:18,040
1940s 1950s they found out that you know

1573
01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:19,870
earth is you know we're the hillbillies

1574
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:22,780
of of the universe right we don't really

1575
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:25,630
have that kind of technology we haven't

1576
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:27,310
visited the Stars yet we haven't visited

1577
01:20:30,189 --> 01:20:28,610
our Moon we're not

1578
01:20:33,729 --> 01:20:30,199
traveling off the point we barely have

1579
01:20:36,609 --> 01:20:33,739
v2 rockets at that point but they are

1580
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:36,619
certainly were aware of us but there

1581
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:40,400
isn't a way to communicate you know for

1582
01:20:46,419 --> 01:20:43,850
them to communicate with us directly so

1583
01:20:48,850 --> 01:20:46,429
these were flybys you know what I mean

1584
01:20:51,459 --> 01:20:48,860
they were observations I think that's an

1585
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:51,469
interesting theory there's other ways

1586
01:20:57,459 --> 01:20:53,210
you could look at it I mean the fact is

1587
01:20:59,680 --> 01:20:57,469
that there were UFO sightings prior not

1588
01:21:02,080 --> 01:20:59,690
simply to nineteen the 1940s but prior

1589
01:21:06,729 --> 01:21:02,090
to the 20th century and I think some

1590
01:21:09,340 --> 01:21:06,739
pretty good ones actually so I mean my

1591
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:09,350
attitude is that we have been under

1592
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:12,710
observation for a very long time I mean

1593
01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:16,730
since ancient times probably sure but it

1594
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:19,100
is I mean I wonder just as you do that

1595
01:21:23,620 --> 01:21:21,530
you know our technological explosion

1596
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:23,630
really in the 19th century late 19th

1597
01:21:29,939 --> 01:21:25,790
century would have gotten some attention

1598
01:21:34,209 --> 01:21:29,949
of other people my feeling is I think

1599
01:21:35,620 --> 01:21:34,219
yeah our our light radio waves and so on

1600
01:21:38,620 --> 01:21:35,630
would have would be going out at the

1601
01:21:42,370 --> 01:21:38,630
speed of light and so on and but I have

1602
01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:42,380
a feeling that that there have to be end

1603
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:44,360
runs or loopholes around the speed of

1604
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:47,440
light limit I really do believe this and

1605
01:21:51,970 --> 01:21:50,210
I'm not a physicist so you could say you

1606
01:21:53,530 --> 01:21:51,980
know what does my opinion matter but I

1607
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:53,540
do try to follow what qualified

1608
01:21:57,340 --> 01:21:55,250
physicists say about this and I know

1609
01:21:59,140 --> 01:21:57,350
that there are a number of them who that

1610
01:22:02,640 --> 01:21:59,150
explained why they the speed of light

1611
01:22:06,129 --> 01:22:02,650
might be in certain ways surmounted

1612
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:06,139
space-time is not simply what Isaac

1613
01:22:11,290 --> 01:22:08,650
Newton said it was 300 years ago it's a

1614
01:22:12,419 --> 01:22:11,300
it can be manipulated in one way or

1615
01:22:15,609 --> 01:22:12,429
another

1616
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:15,619
gravity can manipulate it and speed at

1617
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:18,080
which you're going through space itself

1618
01:22:24,189 --> 01:22:22,130
can manipulate time and so I think that

1619
01:22:26,350 --> 01:22:24,199
our physics have not yet caught up to

1620
01:22:28,689 --> 01:22:26,360
the UFO phenomenon and I think whoever

1621
01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:28,699
these other beings are are using

1622
01:22:32,979 --> 01:22:30,830
technology that we don't yet have online

1623
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:32,989
that we haven't figured out so I don't

1624
01:22:39,459 --> 01:22:35,690
think that they would need to you know

1625
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:39,469
to get messages from Tesla or Edison or

1626
01:22:42,220 --> 01:22:41,810
see reruns of I Love Lucy for that

1627
01:22:44,410 --> 01:22:42,230
matter

1628
01:22:46,090 --> 01:22:44,420
to find out what we're doing but I do

1629
01:22:47,620 --> 01:22:46,100
think that our technological explosion

1630
01:22:49,450 --> 01:22:47,630
would get their attention I think that

1631
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:49,460
they would realize ah Stanton Friedman

1632
01:22:56,440 --> 01:22:51,760
says the kids have the the matches now

1633
01:23:00,220 --> 01:22:56,450
and we got to keep an eye on them and I

1634
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:00,230
do think I mean once human civilization

1635
01:23:08,020 --> 01:23:06,050
got a got some serious technology by

1636
01:23:09,250 --> 01:23:08,030
means of like mass weaponry and a

1637
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:09,260
weapons that could really kill a lot of

1638
01:23:15,850 --> 01:23:12,890
people aircraft missiles nuclear weapons

1639
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:15,860
and then going into the computer age if

1640
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:18,170
there's any observing intelligence and

1641
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:21,110
there are that development of ours would

1642
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:22,610
have to get their attention

1643
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:26,570
I would have to you know for think of

1644
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:28,130
human civilization for thousands of

1645
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:32,090
years if you were a medieval peasant in

1646
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:34,850
Europe or a member of a Native American

1647
01:23:41,620 --> 01:23:38,090
tribe and you or wherever you were if

1648
01:23:45,370 --> 01:23:41,630
you're in China a thousand years ago and

1649
01:23:46,060 --> 01:23:45,380
if you saw a UFO what exactly could you

1650
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:46,070
do about it

1651
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:48,050
who could you talk to about it that you

1652
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:50,650
probably couldn't write all you had were

1653
01:23:56,729 --> 01:23:53,690
oral history traditions of your tribe or

1654
01:23:58,900 --> 01:23:56,739
your people and so human beings

1655
01:24:00,360 --> 01:23:58,910
capability of dealing with and

1656
01:24:03,310 --> 01:24:00,370
interacting with this phenomenon was

1657
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:03,320
extremely limited for almost all of our

1658
01:24:07,870 --> 01:24:05,930
history you know but it's not the case

1659
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:07,880
in the last hundred years it's not at

1660
01:24:11,740 --> 01:24:10,130
all we're up in the air ourselves we

1661
01:24:13,180 --> 01:24:11,750
have weapons and maybe we can't take

1662
01:24:15,850 --> 01:24:13,190
them out in a fight but maybe we can

1663
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:15,860
annoy them we have the ability to detect

1664
01:24:21,729 --> 01:24:17,650
them in ways that were not conceivable

1665
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:21,739
electronically for example and so we got

1666
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:24,560
their attention since the 20th century I

1667
01:24:29,229 --> 01:24:26,350
there's no question in my mind and

1668
01:24:34,150 --> 01:24:29,239
whoever they are and I think there's

1669
01:24:35,140 --> 01:24:34,160
several versions of them we got their

1670
01:24:37,060 --> 01:24:35,150
attention and I think they're watching

1671
01:24:38,140 --> 01:24:37,070
us very carefully and I do I think we're

1672
01:24:42,090 --> 01:24:38,150
a little bit more than hillbillies

1673
01:24:45,190 --> 01:24:42,100
actually I think they may be

1674
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:45,200
intellectually superior to us in certain

1675
01:24:51,250 --> 01:24:49,250
ways I would imagine but I don't know

1676
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:51,260
that they're superior to us in all kinds

1677
01:24:56,150 --> 01:24:52,800
of ways and

1678
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:56,160
I suspect that they would recognize that

1679
01:24:59,600 --> 01:24:58,050
we're quite interesting and that we have

1680
01:25:00,140 --> 01:24:59,610
a lot of potential both positive and

1681
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:00,150
negative

1682
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:05,760
well Hillbillies can be interesting like

1683
01:25:13,460 --> 01:25:09,870
this though we don't have the ability

1684
01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:13,470
well allegedly let's just say lit we

1685
01:25:18,860 --> 01:25:16,620
don't have the ability to to go to them

1686
01:25:21,260 --> 01:25:18,870
but they have the technology to come

1687
01:25:24,170 --> 01:25:21,270
here to visit us so if that is that case

1688
01:25:26,990 --> 01:25:24,180
they're intelligent for whatever that is

1689
01:25:29,570 --> 01:25:27,000
is thousands if not millions of years

1690
01:25:32,990 --> 01:25:29,580
more developed than us that that's just

1691
01:25:36,620 --> 01:25:33,000
that's just simple math and so them

1692
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:36,630
coming here to 300 years ago before

1693
01:25:42,530 --> 01:25:40,530
electricity that you know there wouldn't

1694
01:25:44,690 --> 01:25:42,540
be anything for them to electronically

1695
01:25:48,620 --> 01:25:44,700
pick up or communications or you know

1696
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,630
there isn't anything there so yeah we

1697
01:25:53,090 --> 01:25:50,400
would be the hillbillies of the universe

1698
01:25:54,650 --> 01:25:53,100
in that respect I agree with that in a

1699
01:25:59,090 --> 01:25:54,660
sense like we're not dealing with them

1700
01:26:00,280 --> 01:25:59,100
as equals no and you know people who

1701
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:00,290
talk about what let's establish

1702
01:26:04,370 --> 01:26:02,010
relationships with them and join the

1703
01:26:06,050 --> 01:26:04,380
Galactic Federation of Light or join

1704
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:06,060
them in some way or another I think this

1705
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:07,770
is fantasy

1706
01:26:16,220 --> 01:26:12,570
these are their beings do not they may

1707
01:26:18,980 --> 01:26:16,230
look kindly on us or not but they're not

1708
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:18,990
gonna see us as equals and I don't think

1709
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:20,610
that there's any evidence really that

1710
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:23,070
they're openly communicating with us in

1711
01:26:27,710 --> 01:26:25,770
a way that we can really gather now

1712
01:26:29,480 --> 01:26:27,720
there's claims that the u.s.

1713
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:29,490
black-budget community the breakaway

1714
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:33,360
group civilization may have some ability

1715
01:26:36,590 --> 01:26:35,010
limited to communicate with him I

1716
01:26:41,210 --> 01:26:36,600
remember years ago reading a book called

1717
01:26:43,820 --> 01:26:41,220
above black by Dan Sherman and that's an

1718
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:43,830
interesting book and I don't think I

1719
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:47,520
disbelieve his claims which is that he

1720
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:49,530
was part of a group to engage in

1721
01:26:55,490 --> 01:26:51,440
communication with these other beings

1722
01:26:59,930 --> 01:26:55,500
totally possible but I don't think that

1723
01:27:01,730 --> 01:26:59,940
they're actively working in a open

1724
01:27:04,010 --> 01:27:01,740
communication with with us because that

1725
01:27:05,690 --> 01:27:04,020
they may not be able to their brains may

1726
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,700
not working I spoke with an abductee a

1727
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:06,800
years ago who

1728
01:27:12,970 --> 01:27:08,690
some actually someone featured in one of

1729
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:12,980
John Mack's books on abduction and he

1730
01:27:16,810 --> 01:27:14,810
was really interesting and he said look

1731
01:27:19,660 --> 01:27:16,820
you know my experience with these other

1732
01:27:22,060 --> 01:27:19,670
beings he was abducted by greys is that

1733
01:27:23,950 --> 01:27:22,070
they they're not like us their minds

1734
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:23,960
don't operate like our minds and he said

1735
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:26,090
I felt like they had to slow themselves

1736
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:27,970
down dramatically just to be able to

1737
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:30,530
communicate at all with me and it was

1738
01:27:35,770 --> 01:27:33,410
all telepathic and he said furthermore

1739
01:27:38,170 --> 01:27:35,780
that they in his view seemed to operate

1740
01:27:41,620 --> 01:27:38,180
as a kind of hive mind where there was

1741
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:41,630
no privacy among any any of their beings

1742
01:27:45,820 --> 01:27:43,130
thoughts like they were all part of a

1743
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:45,830
collective thought process right right

1744
01:27:52,930 --> 01:27:49,250
so if that's true how are they gonna be

1745
01:27:54,670 --> 01:27:52,940
able to communicate with us you know we

1746
01:27:56,290 --> 01:27:54,680
have examples in Star Trek like when the

1747
01:27:58,930 --> 01:27:56,300
Borg tried to speak to the enterprise

1748
01:28:01,560 --> 01:27:58,940
through Captain Picard but I mean that's

1749
01:28:04,930 --> 01:28:01,570
Hollywood how would they actually do it

1750
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:04,940
I don't know and I don't know if it's

1751
01:28:08,740 --> 01:28:07,010
very easy for them well I would it be

1752
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:08,750
for us to communicate with with gorillas

1753
01:28:13,450 --> 01:28:11,360
that we're studying in the in the

1754
01:28:15,940 --> 01:28:13,460
forests of Africa how would we

1755
01:28:19,690 --> 01:28:15,950
communicate with them well I'm one of

1756
01:28:22,710 --> 01:28:19,700
the if we if we just let the imagination

1757
01:28:25,420 --> 01:28:22,720
go for a second and we start to look at

1758
01:28:28,090 --> 01:28:25,430
the quantum side of things or the

1759
01:28:31,860 --> 01:28:28,100
ability the nonlocality or locality the

1760
01:28:35,770 --> 01:28:31,870
ability to you know affect something of

1761
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:35,780
vast distances instantaneously and can

1762
01:28:42,220 --> 01:28:39,410
thought travel that same way and if

1763
01:28:44,620 --> 01:28:42,230
there is that type of communication like

1764
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:44,630
you're saying of the hive mind which I

1765
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:47,510
fully I'm fully aware of that

1766
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:50,330
and believe that it's possible that that

1767
01:28:56,740 --> 01:28:53,330
communication is everywhere right it's

1768
01:28:59,620 --> 01:28:56,750
just everywhere and so are there people

1769
01:29:02,830 --> 01:28:59,630
on this planet that are able to tap into

1770
01:29:05,260 --> 01:29:02,840
that vast communication network because

1771
01:29:08,350 --> 01:29:05,270
it would be a technology that you and I

1772
01:29:11,470 --> 01:29:08,360
wouldn't understand you know but 10,000

1773
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:11,480
years from now Richard we are not as

1774
01:29:15,790 --> 01:29:13,610
humans we're not gonna have these bodies

1775
01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:15,800
we're not gonna have these meat sacks

1776
01:29:19,390 --> 01:29:17,840
right well let me let me jump in I'll

1777
01:29:20,290 --> 01:29:19,400
just say I believe that there are people

1778
01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:20,300
who

1779
01:29:24,430 --> 01:29:23,150
are able to tap into that I'm a strong

1780
01:29:25,210 --> 01:29:24,440
believer in psy phenomenon

1781
01:29:26,980 --> 01:29:25,220
remote-viewing

1782
01:29:30,340 --> 01:29:26,990
right there are definitely individuals

1783
01:29:33,490 --> 01:29:30,350
who have better abilities than the

1784
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:33,500
average person right at tapping into

1785
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:35,330
things that are going on in other

1786
01:29:40,270 --> 01:29:37,010
dimensions mm-hmm

1787
01:29:41,650 --> 01:29:40,280
I can't prove it as clearly

1788
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:41,660
scientifically as I would like but

1789
01:29:45,010 --> 01:29:43,280
there's an overwhelming amount of

1790
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:45,020
evidence for the reality of remote

1791
01:29:50,710 --> 01:29:47,450
viewing I'm engaged to a woman who's a

1792
01:29:51,730 --> 01:29:50,720
first-rate remote viewer I hope she

1793
01:29:54,940 --> 01:29:51,740
doesn't mind me saying that

1794
01:29:56,710 --> 01:29:54,950
but but people know this and and and

1795
01:29:59,140 --> 01:29:56,720
I've known a lot of other really

1796
01:30:01,330 --> 01:29:59,150
first-rate remote viewers in my life so

1797
01:30:02,950 --> 01:30:01,340
I don't need to be convinced about it so

1798
01:30:07,570 --> 01:30:02,960
I think some of them can tap in the

1799
01:30:09,250 --> 01:30:07,580
question that we have though is how

1800
01:30:11,380 --> 01:30:09,260
accurate are they all the time can

1801
01:30:14,500 --> 01:30:11,390
people miss read or misinterpret what

1802
01:30:16,570 --> 01:30:14,510
they see and is every claim that every

1803
01:30:18,130 --> 01:30:16,580
person makes about their downloads and

1804
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:18,140
communications without with other beings

1805
01:30:23,260 --> 01:30:20,480
to be believed I have to say the answer

1806
01:30:25,210 --> 01:30:23,270
to that is no for every legitimate

1807
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:25,220
person that I believe I've met I've met

1808
01:30:31,210 --> 01:30:27,760
a lot who I think are not legit or who

1809
01:30:33,070 --> 01:30:31,220
are delusional frankly and so it's

1810
01:30:34,780 --> 01:30:33,080
you're really coming down to a place

1811
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:34,790
where you have to decide on an

1812
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:36,650
individual basis like who's legitimate

1813
01:30:42,460 --> 01:30:38,690
it's hard to know because you're going

1814
01:30:45,670 --> 01:30:42,470
on someone's claim that that they cannot

1815
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:45,680
yet we're not yet able to verify to a

1816
01:30:49,810 --> 01:30:46,570
third party

1817
01:30:52,750 --> 01:30:49,820
most of this stuff where it really had a

1818
01:30:55,870 --> 01:30:52,760
right a disadvantage here well and going

1819
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:55,880
back to what I brought up earlier about

1820
01:31:01,900 --> 01:30:58,010
you know what do they know you know what

1821
01:31:05,650 --> 01:31:01,910
what do they know what if if there was

1822
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:05,660
going to be a tipping moment where they

1823
01:31:09,310 --> 01:31:07,520
were forced into it I'm talking about

1824
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:09,320
Washington and other world governments

1825
01:31:14,650 --> 01:31:11,120
where they are forced to directly

1826
01:31:17,500 --> 01:31:14,660
address the UFO subject whether it's the

1827
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:17,510
classic definition of disclosure or not

1828
01:31:27,340 --> 01:31:24,940
I'm sorry the tipping point of what were

1829
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:27,350
some yeah what would force denial to

1830
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:29,090
disclosure yeah what would force the

1831
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:30,400
hand

1832
01:31:39,370 --> 01:31:33,050
well you know I've speculated about this

1833
01:31:46,540 --> 01:31:39,380
a lot certainly a a sighting a good

1834
01:31:49,690 --> 01:31:46,550
sighting that's publicly recorded and by

1835
01:31:51,700 --> 01:31:49,700
multiple people that is somehow able to

1836
01:31:55,180 --> 01:31:51,710
get out into the public domain and get a

1837
01:31:59,410 --> 01:31:55,190
discussion going that is not explainable

1838
01:32:04,360 --> 01:31:59,420
we need good recordings we need good

1839
01:32:05,740 --> 01:32:04,370
video and from multiple sources and you

1840
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:05,750
know despite the fact that on YouTube

1841
01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:08,210
there are probably hundreds of fresh

1842
01:32:12,700 --> 01:32:11,360
videos that come out every year most are

1843
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:12,710
just not that interesting or they're

1844
01:32:15,730 --> 01:32:14,210
there they're a little bit interesting

1845
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:15,740
or a bit there and if they're

1846
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:18,010
interesting then there's not enough

1847
01:32:24,340 --> 01:32:20,690
sources you know recording something

1848
01:32:26,860 --> 01:32:24,350
multiply the problem that we face phase

1849
01:32:28,300 --> 01:32:26,870
with video is simply that it's everyone

1850
01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:28,310
knows it's easier and easier to fake

1851
01:32:31,690 --> 01:32:29,120
video so you

1852
01:32:34,690 --> 01:32:31,700
we need good video from multiple sources

1853
01:32:39,250 --> 01:32:34,700
with good testimony that gets a

1854
01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:39,260
conversation going that forces an agency

1855
01:32:46,300 --> 01:32:41,600
to have to explain something that would

1856
01:32:50,020 --> 01:32:46,310
be one another could be a leak the right

1857
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:50,030
kind of leak not not a hail-mary leak

1858
01:32:55,210 --> 01:32:53,330
like what we've been expecting I mean we

1859
01:32:57,370 --> 01:32:55,220
seemed Li expect these every year from

1860
01:32:59,320 --> 01:32:57,380
different people who claim to have their

1861
01:33:00,940 --> 01:32:59,330
inside sources and then the sources

1862
01:33:04,780 --> 01:33:00,950
simply disappear I'm thinking of Tom

1863
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:04,790
DeLonge who a year ago had his sources

1864
01:33:07,810 --> 01:33:06,530
high-level people and I don't know where

1865
01:33:09,220 --> 01:33:07,820
these people have gone and he's got

1866
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:09,230
something else that's happening and it's

1867
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:12,890
not disclosure whatever it is so what we

1868
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:17,120
need is genuine high-level credible

1869
01:33:23,830 --> 01:33:19,370
sources who are willing to go on the

1870
01:33:27,130 --> 01:33:23,840
record or failing that a WikiLeaks type

1871
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of event where something is something

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01:33:32,380 --> 01:33:29,660
genuine leaks out that is damning

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01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:32,390
information the more I think about this

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the more I think that that is maybe

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01:33:38,230 --> 01:33:36,050
most likely scenario that's something

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01:33:42,250 --> 01:33:38,240
something is ripped out digitally and

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put out it for the world to talk about I

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think that's a possibility let's take a

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break right here I agree though with the

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with the WikiLeaks possibility because

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that is out of that is out of their

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01:33:54,310 --> 01:33:53,240
control that's that's plain and simple

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that is something that they couldn't

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control obviously we know how effective

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that can be

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our guest tonight is Richard bleep and

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Dolan happy Thanksgiving everybody I'm

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your host Jimmy church this is fade to

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Jimmy Church on the game change in

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network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to G me Church this is

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black

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happy Thanksgiving everybody

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our guest tonight is Richard bleep and

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Dolan and follows on Twitter I J George

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radio Richard do you ever get tired of

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hearing that Richard bleep and Dolan no

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01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:22,369
I love it Jimmy I love it

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it's a you're the other one who says it

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but no it's very nice

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you can always say that okay good good I

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just hope that I'm not offending there

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01:38:38,290 --> 01:38:36,289
I've got a couple of questions here in

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then a popped up in Twitter and one of

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01:38:43,810 --> 01:38:40,900
them this comes from Larry and he says

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01:38:46,060 --> 01:38:43,820
does mr. Dolan think that any world

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government has had contact or

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01:38:52,089 --> 01:38:49,059
face-to-face meetings with aliens I

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don't know if they have I don't have

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knowledge or evidence of that one way or

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the other

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I do have I think there's strong

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evidence that Russia has had a

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long-standing interesting connection to

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UFOs just as the United States has every

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01:39:10,179 --> 01:39:08,659
bit as detailed every bit as many

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military encounters and they've had

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01:39:16,449 --> 01:39:12,979
their own crash retrievals as well

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Russia definitely I think there's reason

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01:39:22,359 --> 01:39:18,320
to believe that the Russian government

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is just about as on top of this subject

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as the United States government so it's

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it's possible that they have well the

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Chinese government is a it's a harder

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one to discern just because we really

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know a lot less there are there's reason

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to believe that the Chinese military has

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01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:43,269
had its own history of UFO encounters

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the few Chinese researchers who

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communicated with the West I mean

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they're really in so many ways still a

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very closed off community it seems to me

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but the few who have communicated to the

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west at least I've indicated that there

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01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,360
there are rumors of crash retrievals

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within the Chinese military but I don't

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have any hard and fast information so

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whether they're communicating

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no and then as far as other governments

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almost every other government is a

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subsidiary owned and fully owned by the

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United States anyway

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I mean Britain has no independence

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France NATO even Israel these are these

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01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:24,619
countries are under the US thumb and so

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they're not they're not gonna say boo

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none of them without the United States

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01:40:34,209 --> 01:40:32,030
overseeing it all you know we're in an

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01:40:36,399 --> 01:40:34,219
era now of post Edward Snowden where we

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01:40:39,310 --> 01:40:36,409
just know for a fact that the NSA is

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monitoring every single communication of

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01:40:44,620 --> 01:40:42,500
every single foreign leader from Angela

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01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:44,630
Merkel of Germany's her cell phone to

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01:40:49,930 --> 01:40:46,130
the former president of Brazil Dilma

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01:40:52,259 --> 01:40:49,940
Rousseff and her entire ministry in

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:52,269
cabinet that's before the u.s.

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01:40:57,490 --> 01:40:54,730
essentially had a soft coup to oust her

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01:40:59,589 --> 01:40:57,500
all of these national leaders they're

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01:41:02,410 --> 01:40:59,599
all monitored and no one does anything

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01:41:05,319 --> 01:41:02,420
or very very little without the United

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01:41:08,649 --> 01:41:05,329
States signing off on it now there I've

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01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:08,659
got a few things that are coming in here

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01:41:14,279 --> 01:41:11,570
going back to communication through

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01:41:17,140 --> 01:41:14,289
thought and your comments on that and

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01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:17,150
Nancy she wanted to know some

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01:41:22,419 --> 01:41:19,280
clarification are you saying that there

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was no credence to communication with et

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01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:27,110
through thought that is not what I said

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01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:30,170
what I said is that I believe it it

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01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:32,449
happens I believe there are legitimate

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01:41:35,950 --> 01:41:34,730
cases where it happens and I also said I

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01:41:38,129 --> 01:41:35,960
believe that there are many cases

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01:41:40,509 --> 01:41:38,139
because I've spoken to these people

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01:41:43,569 --> 01:41:40,519
where there's no credibility behind what

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01:41:45,729 --> 01:41:43,579
they say and so it comes down to

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01:41:47,470 --> 01:41:45,739
deciding who's credible and who isn't

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01:41:49,649 --> 01:41:47,480
and that's a tricky issue yeah but I

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01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:49,659
think it's possible I think look we have

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01:41:54,819 --> 01:41:52,130
interesting minds and interesting brains

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01:41:57,310 --> 01:41:54,829
that have capabilities that are a lot

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01:42:00,129 --> 01:41:57,320
beyond that the classical materialistic

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01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:00,139
conception of what you know traditional

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01:42:05,049 --> 01:42:02,690
scientists say reality as we we know

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01:42:06,549 --> 01:42:05,059
this but that's a long way off from

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01:42:08,379 --> 01:42:06,559
saying that everyone who makes a claim

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01:42:12,669 --> 01:42:08,389
is correct about it yeah right right

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01:42:15,910 --> 01:42:12,679
well it's funny how I watch the ebb and

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01:42:18,220 --> 01:42:15,920
flow of of Twitter in the chat rooms you

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01:42:20,910 --> 01:42:18,230
know throughout the show and what gets

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01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:20,920
ignited into

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01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:23,199
you know flames into a conversation and

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01:42:28,379 --> 01:42:26,290
and telepathy and communication through

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01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:28,389
the mind is something that this audience

2057
01:42:33,090 --> 01:42:31,210
is very much interested in and I just

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01:42:34,890 --> 01:42:33,100
love it when when the conversation kicks

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01:42:39,870 --> 01:42:34,900
up like this question just came in via

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01:42:42,990 --> 01:42:39,880
email please ask Richard wooden

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01:42:45,540 --> 01:42:43,000
telepathy be a plus imagine no more

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01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:45,550
misunderstandings whether between

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01:42:51,359 --> 01:42:49,030
governments or individuals me and and I

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01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:51,369
enjoyed your comment on that but for me

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01:42:57,419 --> 01:42:55,119
I don't know if if that's a good man

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01:42:59,280 --> 01:42:57,429
first of all with respect to the person

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01:43:01,470 --> 01:42:59,290
who wrote it that's a very strong miss

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01:43:02,970 --> 01:43:01,480
hundred understanding of why people

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01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,980
fight each other and why they kill each

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01:43:06,209 --> 01:43:05,199
other and why they steal they don't

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01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:06,219
steal and kill because they

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01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:08,320
misunderstand each other they steal

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01:43:12,810 --> 01:43:10,510
because they're greedy they steal

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01:43:14,879 --> 01:43:12,820
because they want things they steal

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01:43:16,050 --> 01:43:14,889
because they want power so it's not

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01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:16,060
because like the u.s. is

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01:43:19,770 --> 01:43:18,010
misunderstanding Russia these days that

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01:43:22,290 --> 01:43:19,780
there's fights going on that's there's

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01:43:25,649 --> 01:43:22,300
nothing to do with it it's because they

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lie and they want to get what they want

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01:43:30,689 --> 01:43:28,210
and so if there were telepathy like

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01:43:32,820 --> 01:43:30,699
first of all we're assuming it's perfect

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01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:32,830
telepathy where there's never a

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01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:34,510
misunderstanding telepathically and of

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01:43:40,050 --> 01:43:38,650
course that's I've don't believe that we

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01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:40,060
have that capability it's one thing to

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01:43:43,970 --> 01:43:41,920
say we've got SCI capabilities it's

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01:43:46,649 --> 01:43:43,980
another to say that we're infallible or

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that the alien beings or that matter are

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01:43:51,300 --> 01:43:49,810
infallible telepathically people make

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01:43:53,149 --> 01:43:51,310
mistakes and that can happen

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01:43:55,470 --> 01:43:53,159
telepathically as well as in our words

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01:43:58,379 --> 01:43:55,480
so I don't think that that's gonna solve

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01:44:02,640 --> 01:43:58,389
any problem sorry yeah I know I don't

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01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:02,650
know if I want to know what you are

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01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:04,810
thinking you don't I don't want to know

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01:44:08,939 --> 01:44:07,330
what you're thinking and I don't know

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01:44:13,979 --> 01:44:08,949
want to know what people listening are

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01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:13,989
thinking that's a bad road man because I

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01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:16,570
have some twisted fun thoughts man but I

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01:44:22,979 --> 01:44:18,010
don't need to share them with the world

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01:44:28,350 --> 01:44:22,989
you know and I mean if you walk it

2103
01:44:31,260 --> 01:44:28,360
wouldn't it also be a noisy environment

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01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:31,270
you know the imagine two or three people

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01:44:34,490 --> 01:44:32,159
in a room

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01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:34,500
and and that going on but how about like

2107
01:44:40,669 --> 01:44:38,159
a concert or a shopping mall that would

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01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:40,679
be a very congested you wouldn't even be

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01:44:45,410 --> 01:44:43,260
able to think yeah who would want that I

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01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:45,420
I don't know about you and I don't think

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01:44:51,470 --> 01:44:47,730
I would want most people's thoughts near

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01:44:53,530 --> 01:44:51,480
my mind and it's not nothing personal

2113
01:44:56,419 --> 01:44:53,540
folks but I just don't think I do

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01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,429
so I you know one thing that Tracy and I

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01:45:01,610 --> 01:44:57,840
do every night we go into airplane mode

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01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:01,620
phone phone goes away after a certain

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01:45:06,770 --> 01:45:05,130
time and and that's it so if I don't

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01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:06,780
want to get phone calls after a certain

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01:45:10,879 --> 01:45:08,190
time I certainly don't want to hear

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01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:10,889
anyone's thoughts now what do you think

2121
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:15,330
about and let's look forward into 2018

2122
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:20,250
because this disclosure in the D word is

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01:45:24,500 --> 01:45:22,260
what has been talked about for the last

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01:45:27,020 --> 01:45:24,510
you know five six seven eight nine ten

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01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:27,030
years certainly a lot today but there's

2126
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:30,239
another D word that is but you know it's

2127
01:45:37,399 --> 01:45:34,770
drip drip drip hmm drip drip drip the

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01:45:41,450 --> 01:45:37,409
new D word well I like that

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01:45:43,340 --> 01:45:41,460
we're going our society is going through

2130
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:43,350
a very very radical changes and it

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01:45:46,939 --> 01:45:44,639
sometimes it's easy for us to forget

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01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:46,949
that because we're we're living it you

2133
01:45:54,350 --> 01:45:51,650
know but we are definitely going through

2134
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:54,360
radical changes and all you have to do

2135
01:45:57,919 --> 01:45:56,010
is step back 20 years and just to see

2136
01:46:00,560 --> 01:45:57,929
where we were 20 years ago and see where

2137
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:00,570
we are now in terms of our ability to

2138
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:02,250
communicate with each other in the

2139
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:05,370
nation around the world so now we're

2140
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:07,130
radically transforming ourselves and

2141
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:12,530
that ability to communicate globally has

2142
01:46:18,879 --> 01:46:16,530
very much ramped up our discussion of

2143
01:46:20,990 --> 01:46:18,889
the UFO phenomenon it has invaded

2144
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,000
popular culture in ways that were not

2145
01:46:27,260 --> 01:46:23,040
even the case in the 90s or in the 80s

2146
01:46:28,970 --> 01:46:27,270
right so I I agree with that and there

2147
01:46:30,740 --> 01:46:28,980
is a definite cultural transformation

2148
01:46:33,140 --> 01:46:30,750
that's happening and I think that that

2149
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:33,150
direction is going toward more openness

2150
01:46:40,629 --> 01:46:36,449
about the UFO subjects

2151
01:46:42,919 --> 01:46:40,639
I think it is so that that'll happen

2152
01:46:45,049 --> 01:46:42,929
whether that's going to translate into a

2153
01:46:47,299 --> 01:46:45,059
disclosure is another question I you

2154
01:46:50,810 --> 01:46:47,309
know I wrote a booklet on disclosure in

2155
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:50,820
the Trump era earlier this year Trump

2156
01:46:55,850 --> 01:46:53,130
was a new president at the time but even

2157
01:47:01,100 --> 01:46:55,860
then I could start to see like it was

2158
01:47:02,689 --> 01:47:01,110
very obvious that he was essentially you

2159
01:47:04,850 --> 01:47:02,699
know whether he was the real deal as a

2160
01:47:06,919 --> 01:47:04,860
candidate or not he's obviously took on

2161
01:47:10,339 --> 01:47:06,929
me almost totally the policies of

2162
01:47:13,159 --> 01:47:10,349
Hillary Clinton so he became he became

2163
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:13,169
Hillary Clinton by the spring of 2018 in

2164
01:47:17,959 --> 01:47:14,880
terms of at least geopolitics foreign

2165
01:47:19,819 --> 01:47:17,969
policy was identical where as a

2166
01:47:22,370 --> 01:47:19,829
candidate he was very different but as a

2167
01:47:24,770 --> 01:47:22,380
president it just as proof you know that

2168
01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:24,780
you really can't do anything radically

2169
01:47:30,109 --> 01:47:26,249
different when you get into the seat of

2170
01:47:32,299 --> 01:47:30,119
power they force you I mean if he was

2171
01:47:34,250 --> 01:47:32,309
legitimately opposed to the national

2172
01:47:36,259 --> 01:47:34,260
security policy which he seemed to be as

2173
01:47:38,029 --> 01:47:36,269
a candidate he certainly isn't as a

2174
01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:38,039
president so everything it's it's just

2175
01:47:45,949 --> 01:47:40,249
more the same so I don't really think

2176
01:47:49,009 --> 01:47:45,959
you know I speculated that Trump was you

2177
01:47:50,750 --> 01:47:49,019
know a wild card enough you're where the

2178
01:47:51,979 --> 01:47:50,760
narcissism would be like his Teflon

2179
01:47:54,259 --> 01:47:51,989
coating would be the thing that saved

2180
01:47:56,029 --> 01:47:54,269
him in other words here was a guy who

2181
01:47:57,859 --> 01:47:56,039
would stood all the cultural shaming

2182
01:48:00,199 --> 01:47:57,869
that was stirring at him for almost two

2183
01:48:01,459 --> 01:48:00,209
years solid as a candidate and it only

2184
01:48:03,469 --> 01:48:01,469
seemed to make him stronger and I

2185
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:03,479
thought well great because that'll put

2186
01:48:06,770 --> 01:48:04,530
him in the White House and if he

2187
01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:06,780
actually is interested in UFOs and I I

2188
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:09,360
was sure that he is interested in UFOs

2189
01:48:13,819 --> 01:48:12,090
and I'm still sure he is I mean the guy

2190
01:48:17,209 --> 01:48:13,829
was a private citizen for his whole life

2191
01:48:20,989 --> 01:48:17,219
he wasn't obligated like a politician to

2192
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:20,999
just dismiss UFOs and on top of that

2193
01:48:23,839 --> 01:48:22,320
he's very friendly with alternative

2194
01:48:25,250 --> 01:48:23,849
radio it was a good buddy of Alex Jones

2195
01:48:28,009 --> 01:48:25,260
and a lot of other alternative radio

2196
01:48:31,279 --> 01:48:28,019
people out there so I thought you know

2197
01:48:34,429 --> 01:48:31,289
that of all the major political figures

2198
01:48:37,399 --> 01:48:34,439
we've had in the last lifetime I thought

2199
01:48:40,449 --> 01:48:37,409
this guy actually for all of his ego for

2200
01:48:45,139 --> 01:48:40,459
all of his annoyances could have been

2201
01:48:46,850 --> 01:48:45,149
the presidential the president who

2202
01:48:48,859 --> 01:48:46,860
actually could just say hey you know

2203
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:48,869
what here's a 2 a.m. tweet everyone

2204
01:48:51,740 --> 01:48:50,010
knows aliens are real

2205
01:48:55,130 --> 01:48:51,750
you know you could almost see him doing

2206
01:48:56,450 --> 01:48:55,140
that I could and I I wondered if that

2207
01:48:59,090 --> 01:48:56,460
would happen but I don't think that's

2208
01:49:00,140 --> 01:48:59,100
going to happen at all at all I didn't

2209
01:49:01,820 --> 01:49:00,150
even think it was going to happen back

2210
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:01,830
then but I definitely don't know I think

2211
01:49:08,300 --> 01:49:06,239
he's been completely co-opted taken over

2212
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:08,310
by the exact same national security

2213
01:49:13,010 --> 01:49:10,110
crowd that Hillary Clinton was bringing

2214
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:13,020
in I don't see any major differences

2215
01:49:18,170 --> 01:49:15,930
frankly and our you know these

2216
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:18,180
Republican there so there's Republican

2217
01:49:21,229 --> 01:49:19,890
things that he's doing that Republicans

2218
01:49:23,090 --> 01:49:21,239
would do as opposed to with Democrats

2219
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:23,100
too but in terms of any radical changes

2220
01:49:31,820 --> 01:49:24,960
I don't see anything are you suggesting

2221
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:31,830
that the the deep state that he has been

2222
01:49:40,700 --> 01:49:36,930
outspoken about is now I'd gotten that

2223
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:40,710
control that he that he resists my

2224
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:43,650
opinion is that that is the case I mean

2225
01:49:46,670 --> 01:49:44,880
they went right after him right out of

2226
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:46,680
the gate they you know they started with

2227
01:49:50,270 --> 01:49:48,090
this whole Russian nonsense and it is

2228
01:49:51,410 --> 01:49:50,280
nonsense and people who believe it just

2229
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:51,420
proved to me that they're ignorant about

2230
01:49:58,130 --> 01:49:54,480
global politics Russia is not the enemy

2231
01:49:59,570 --> 01:49:58,140
sorry it isn't Russia did not rig our

2232
01:50:01,040 --> 01:49:59,580
elections sorry they didn't do that

2233
01:50:03,260 --> 01:50:01,050
either

2234
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:03,270
all of that is it is a canard that's a

2235
01:50:10,010 --> 01:50:06,930
fancy word for a lie so but it's being

2236
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:10,020
used politically to kneecap him I mean

2237
01:50:13,100 --> 01:50:11,520
he said one of the most unforgivable

2238
01:50:15,530 --> 01:50:13,110
things as a candidate which was let's be

2239
01:50:18,170 --> 01:50:15,540
friends with Russia why not how dare he

2240
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:18,180
I mean people forget these like he

2241
01:50:21,710 --> 01:50:19,770
actually said let's try to have decent

2242
01:50:23,870 --> 01:50:21,720
relationship with Russia a totally

2243
01:50:26,420 --> 01:50:23,880
reasonable thing to say as a matter of

2244
01:50:28,850 --> 01:50:26,430
fact about what you're seeing is the

2245
01:50:30,380 --> 01:50:28,860
deep state that is the deep deep

2246
01:50:32,690 --> 01:50:30,390
intelligence community that's really

2247
01:50:35,390 --> 01:50:32,700
running things behind the scenes and

2248
01:50:38,090 --> 01:50:35,400
they are real they're not interested in

2249
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:38,100
friendship with Russia at all they need

2250
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:40,410
a boogeyman and Russia is the perfect

2251
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:43,050
one for them because Russia does stand

2252
01:50:48,170 --> 01:50:45,360
in the way of certain US geopolitical

2253
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:48,180
goals which is basically dominate all

2254
01:50:52,670 --> 01:50:50,130
the oil all the natural gas dominate the

2255
01:50:56,090 --> 01:50:52,680
natural gas supply to Europe and much

2256
01:50:57,590 --> 01:50:56,100
more and so Russia isn't just rolling

2257
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:57,600
over like they did in the 90s when

2258
01:51:00,830 --> 01:50:59,520
everyone was happy that the drunk named

2259
01:51:02,750 --> 01:51:00,840
Boris Yeltsin was running the country

2260
01:51:03,740 --> 01:51:02,760
right right now you got a guy named

2261
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:03,750
Putin who's saying

2262
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:05,370
we're not actually gonna roll over and

2263
01:51:10,910 --> 01:51:09,570
so he has to be demonized Trump had an

2264
01:51:13,250 --> 01:51:10,920
idea that we could work with Russia I

2265
01:51:14,300 --> 01:51:13,260
think that was a smart idea but that

2266
01:51:15,890 --> 01:51:14,310
will never be allowed to happen

2267
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:15,900
apparently you can just see what's going

2268
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:18,330
on they took out Michael Flynn right out

2269
01:51:24,620 --> 01:51:23,070
of the gate over a spurious ridiculous

2270
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:24,630
alleged connection with Russia which is

2271
01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:25,290
not true

2272
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:27,450
and they've done the rest they you know

2273
01:51:33,110 --> 01:51:29,760
they keep the drip drip drip with the

2274
01:51:36,740 --> 01:51:33,120
whole Russia nonsense so there's no way

2275
01:51:38,030 --> 01:51:36,750
I mean if he really I think there might

2276
01:51:39,460 --> 01:51:38,040
have been a chance early on in its

2277
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:39,470
presidency when he could have

2278
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:42,810
forthrightly stood up against us and

2279
01:51:47,090 --> 01:51:45,450
defended people like Flynn and but he

2280
01:51:50,630 --> 01:51:47,100
didn't do it he rolled over

2281
01:51:53,810 --> 01:51:50,640
maybe they frightened him maybe they but

2282
01:51:56,510 --> 01:51:53,820
the other thing about Trump you know for

2283
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:56,520
all however outspoken he was as a

2284
01:52:01,580 --> 01:51:58,080
candidate it was obvious he didn't know

2285
01:52:03,170 --> 01:52:01,590
a lot in terms of global politics and my

2286
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:03,180
opinion just listening to the things he

2287
01:52:08,510 --> 01:52:06,930
said whereas like you know Hillary

2288
01:52:10,900 --> 01:52:08,520
Clinton certainly didn't know a lot but

2289
01:52:12,770 --> 01:52:10,910
she just happened to be evil to the core

2290
01:52:15,770 --> 01:52:12,780
Trump just seemed like he didn't know

2291
01:52:18,770 --> 01:52:15,780
what he was talking about and but he's

2292
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:18,780
just been totally checkmated so I don't

2293
01:52:23,570 --> 01:52:20,850
really see any leeway for him this is

2294
01:52:27,230 --> 01:52:23,580
what I find interesting if you turn back

2295
01:52:29,090 --> 01:52:27,240
the table two years ago three years ago

2296
01:52:32,690 --> 01:52:29,100
and some of our conversations that you

2297
01:52:36,380 --> 01:52:32,700
and I had back then and John Podesta and

2298
01:52:41,090 --> 01:52:36,390
his famous tweet and you know and and

2299
01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:41,100
how he was at that time the the the hope

2300
01:52:46,130 --> 01:52:44,310
of the UFO community and disclosure and

2301
01:52:48,110 --> 01:52:46,140
pushing this forward and he knows

2302
01:52:50,540 --> 01:52:48,120
something and he's upset that he didn't

2303
01:52:53,810 --> 01:52:50,550
push this policy in the Obama

2304
01:52:57,860 --> 01:52:53,820
administration and and here we are today

2305
01:52:59,780 --> 01:52:57,870
you can't even say Podesta's name in the

2306
01:53:02,660 --> 01:52:59,790
UFO community now I mean he is so

2307
01:53:06,500 --> 01:53:02,670
tarnished and and you know not only

2308
01:53:09,140 --> 01:53:06,510
through WikiLeaks but the pizza gate and

2309
01:53:12,830 --> 01:53:09,150
and pedophilia and and everything else

2310
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:12,840
wow you just went there but but the

2311
01:53:16,169 --> 01:53:14,970
black people are not going in that

2312
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:16,179
direction and

2313
01:53:21,090 --> 01:53:17,920
and they they really want to dismiss all

2314
01:53:24,060 --> 01:53:21,100
of that and from my part I haven't I

2315
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:24,070
have to say like I haven't spent the

2316
01:53:28,770 --> 01:53:26,320
time and really thrown myself into that

2317
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:28,780
and there's allegations I wear I read

2318
01:53:32,850 --> 01:53:30,880
went to Snopes on the whole pizza gate

2319
01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:32,860
thing and the one thing I have to say I

2320
01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:35,350
mean Snopes is a joke let's just put

2321
01:53:40,649 --> 01:53:38,800
that right out there but Snopes you know

2322
01:53:41,250 --> 01:53:40,659
while they tried they said it's been

2323
01:53:44,010 --> 01:53:41,260
debunked

2324
01:53:46,140 --> 01:53:44,020
I read their whole explanation for this

2325
01:53:48,810 --> 01:53:46,150
and I saw no debunking in their

2326
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:48,820
explanation whatsoever zero so I'm like

2327
01:53:53,490 --> 01:53:50,320
where's your evidence if you're gonna do

2328
01:53:55,740 --> 01:53:53,500
bunk it and you know this is claims of

2329
01:53:57,899 --> 01:53:55,750
course of course of a pedophilia at high

2330
01:54:00,959 --> 01:53:57,909
levels of the power structure journey

2331
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:00,969
everyone knows everyone knows that this

2332
01:54:07,709 --> 01:54:04,090
goes on at high levels of power that

2333
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:07,719
it's been out there for generations it's

2334
01:54:12,930 --> 01:54:09,730
in Hollywood it's in Washington it's

2335
01:54:18,810 --> 01:54:12,940
around the world it's in London it's in

2336
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:18,820
Europe power people in power have what

2337
01:54:22,140 --> 01:54:20,890
they need excitement because everything

2338
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:22,150
else bores them because they've got

2339
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:23,350
everything they want so what do they

2340
01:54:28,020 --> 01:54:25,090
want they want forbidden fruit right

2341
01:54:29,250 --> 01:54:28,030
clearly they do this and they want

2342
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:29,260
things that most of us would find

2343
01:54:33,209 --> 01:54:32,170
utterly revolting because it turns them

2344
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:33,219
on because it's different it's like a

2345
01:54:37,500 --> 01:54:36,010
drug for them there's been study after

2346
01:54:39,899 --> 01:54:37,510
study and claim and witness after

2347
01:54:42,050 --> 01:54:39,909
witness it's out there so whether the

2348
01:54:44,370 --> 01:54:42,060
pizza gate allegations are true or not I

2349
01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:44,380
wouldn't shock me if they were but I

2350
01:54:48,330 --> 01:54:46,480
don't know for a fact but to Podesta

2351
01:54:50,729 --> 01:54:48,340
family in Podesta and his brother I

2352
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:50,739
should say have been implicated

2353
01:54:54,750 --> 01:54:52,960
so yeah the UFO field they want nothing

2354
01:54:57,810 --> 01:54:54,760
to do with Podesta I will say for my

2355
01:54:59,790 --> 01:54:57,820
part I was never on board the pedestrian

2356
01:55:02,220 --> 01:54:59,800
and I never I never felt that this guy

2357
01:55:04,979 --> 01:55:02,230
was going to be a friend to disclosure I

2358
01:55:07,169 --> 01:55:04,989
just never I mean back in o2 when he did

2359
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:07,179
a I think it was Oh two or oh three in

2360
01:55:11,459 --> 01:55:08,560
his press conference where he made a

2361
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:11,469
very forthright and proper statement

2362
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:13,810
about the UFO subject I want to say this

2363
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:18,610
he did that was a good thing and and I

2364
01:55:23,300 --> 01:55:20,560
don't I wouldn't dispute that he's

2365
01:55:26,340 --> 01:55:23,310
interested in UFOs I'm sure he is and

2366
01:55:29,410 --> 01:55:26,350
that's intelligent because UFOs are a

2367
01:55:32,740 --> 01:55:29,420
valid subject to be interested in but

2368
01:55:35,290 --> 01:55:32,750
we have to understand Podesta like a lot

2369
01:55:38,140 --> 01:55:35,300
of you know is what was one of the most

2370
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:38,150
powerful people in Washington he was

2371
01:55:43,870 --> 01:55:40,400
he's not a neophyte he's a seasoned

2372
01:55:45,220 --> 01:55:43,880
political master this guy was Bill

2373
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:45,230
Clinton's chief of staff he was Hillary

2374
01:55:50,500 --> 01:55:47,210
Clinton's campaign manager he was a brat

2375
01:55:53,379 --> 01:55:50,510
Barack Obama's transition chief he knew

2376
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:53,389
everyone knows everyone and so for him

2377
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:55,010
just to go out willy-nilly and say oh

2378
01:56:00,820 --> 01:55:58,880
yeah we need disclosure what exactly it

2379
01:56:01,660 --> 01:56:00,830
would prompt him to say that I wondered

2380
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:01,670
again and again

2381
01:56:07,709 --> 01:56:04,210
I mean Podesta would have to know that

2382
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:07,719
genuine disclosure would be the most

2383
01:56:13,899 --> 01:56:11,690
revolutionary earth-shattering applecart

2384
01:56:16,330 --> 01:56:13,909
upsetting statement you could imagine

2385
01:56:18,879 --> 01:56:16,340
and it would be something that would not

2386
01:56:22,450 --> 01:56:18,889
be easy to contain particularly for his

2387
01:56:23,950 --> 01:56:22,460
candidate Hillary Clinton to think that

2388
01:56:25,899 --> 01:56:23,960
they would be able get on top of

2389
01:56:30,090 --> 01:56:25,909
disclosure and manage it and use it to

2390
01:56:32,410 --> 01:56:30,100
win the only reason I believe Podesta

2391
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:32,420
did encourage Hillary Clinton to talk

2392
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:34,130
about UFOs during the campaign and he

2393
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:37,760
did was because he realized

2394
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:42,850
intelligently that UFO subject isn't

2395
01:56:47,919 --> 01:56:46,250
it's not that the third rail you know

2396
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:47,929
that's the the kiss of death as it were

2397
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:49,730
for a politician like it was even ten

2398
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:51,650
years ago for Dennis Kucinich back in oh

2399
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:54,110
wait where he he was merely a UFO

2400
01:56:59,649 --> 01:56:56,210
witness and they used that to destroy

2401
01:57:02,859 --> 01:56:59,659
him in a couple of days oh it was it was

2402
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:02,869
just horrible horrible really terrible

2403
01:57:08,109 --> 01:57:06,650
Kucinich was a good man and it was a

2404
01:57:11,260 --> 01:57:08,119
genuine witness who had two other people

2405
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:11,270
with him by the way when he saw I think

2406
01:57:14,740 --> 01:57:12,800
was a black triangle back in the early

2407
01:57:17,590 --> 01:57:14,750
1980s on the property of Shirley

2408
01:57:20,770 --> 01:57:17,600
MacLaine his friend anyway the point is

2409
01:57:23,140 --> 01:57:20,780
that Podesta I think realized in the

2410
01:57:25,660 --> 01:57:23,150
campaign of 2016 that the public is in a

2411
01:57:27,550 --> 01:57:25,670
different place and the UFOs have a

2412
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:27,560
certain cool factor attached to them and

2413
01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:30,080
by talking about UFOs in a superficial

2414
01:57:36,879 --> 01:57:34,400
way which is all Hillary ever did that

2415
01:57:40,049 --> 01:57:36,889
maybe there's a UFO vote out there and

2416
01:57:42,299 --> 01:57:40,059
of course they were lucky because

2417
01:57:44,759 --> 01:57:42,309
they were able to bring up the UFO

2418
01:57:46,739 --> 01:57:44,769
subject because they knew the New York

2419
01:57:48,869 --> 01:57:46,749
Times and Washington Post and CNN would

2420
01:57:51,089 --> 01:57:48,879
never ever ever call him out for it

2421
01:57:53,459 --> 01:57:51,099
would never attack them for it and they

2422
01:57:56,519 --> 01:57:53,469
didn't the New York Times which always

2423
01:57:59,009 --> 01:57:56,529
makes fun of UFOs wrote a puff piece on

2424
01:58:00,959 --> 01:57:59,019
Hillary in UFOs the one thing that they

2425
01:58:02,429 --> 01:58:00,969
when they mentioned it during the

2426
01:58:04,259 --> 01:58:02,439
campaign and they just wouldn't attack

2427
01:58:06,449 --> 01:58:04,269
her could you imagine if Trump had

2428
01:58:07,919 --> 01:58:06,459
talked about UFOs at the candidate New

2429
01:58:11,609 --> 01:58:07,929
York Times would have been all over him

2430
01:58:13,949 --> 01:58:11,619
but they they just let Hillary do it so

2431
01:58:16,139 --> 01:58:13,959
so I think Podesta was smart he knew

2432
01:58:18,239 --> 01:58:16,149
they had the media in their pocket for

2433
01:58:20,969 --> 01:58:18,249
the most part other than Fox they had

2434
01:58:24,389 --> 01:58:20,979
95% of the US media completely owned by

2435
01:58:27,089 --> 01:58:24,399
them and so they could afford to broach

2436
01:58:28,829 --> 01:58:27,099
the UFO subject knowing that there was a

2437
01:58:30,569 --> 01:58:28,839
bit of a vote out there a bit of a

2438
01:58:32,929 --> 01:58:30,579
market and maybe they tapped into some

2439
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:32,939
of it well and he brought up DeLong

2440
01:58:39,479 --> 01:58:35,679
before the break and and to go back and

2441
01:58:43,349 --> 01:58:39,489
visit this because when when everything

2442
01:58:46,979 --> 01:58:43,359
started to now I think what DeLong is

2443
01:58:49,529 --> 01:58:46,989
trying to do is cool I appreciate that

2444
01:58:51,419 --> 01:58:49,539
and if I was in his position if I could

2445
01:58:53,339 --> 01:58:51,429
put put that together I would do the

2446
01:58:56,669 --> 01:58:53,349
very same thing that he is doing no

2447
01:58:59,969 --> 01:58:56,679
doubt but back then when the WikiLeaks

2448
01:59:03,239 --> 01:58:59,979
dump happened in the emails hit and the

2449
01:59:06,209 --> 01:59:03,249
long was exposed you know in writing to

2450
01:59:08,849 --> 01:59:06,219
Podesta about UFOs when that outing

2451
01:59:11,689 --> 01:59:08,859
happened and then the pizza gate thing

2452
01:59:14,819 --> 01:59:11,699
happened and then you know Podesta was

2453
01:59:18,239 --> 01:59:14,829
thrown out of the UFO community very

2454
01:59:20,909 --> 01:59:18,249
very quickly suddenly DeLong the one

2455
01:59:23,699 --> 01:59:20,919
thing that propped him up with the to

2456
01:59:27,899 --> 01:59:23,709
the Stars and and this this Podesta

2457
01:59:32,489 --> 01:59:27,909
connection he he distanced himself when

2458
01:59:34,409 --> 01:59:32,499
he did the the live internet press

2459
01:59:36,659 --> 01:59:34,419
briefing last month I'm talking about

2460
01:59:39,329 --> 01:59:36,669
too long and to the Stars who was

2461
01:59:41,549 --> 01:59:39,339
missing Podesta you know he's not there

2462
01:59:44,609 --> 01:59:41,559
he's not part of it and he isn't spoken

2463
01:59:47,339 --> 01:59:44,619
about now as well and I just think it

2464
01:59:49,529 --> 01:59:47,349
speaks volumes how quickly something can

2465
01:59:51,629 --> 01:59:49,539
turn it was never clear to me that

2466
01:59:53,189 --> 01:59:51,639
Podesta was fully on board anyway if you

2467
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:53,199
go through the WikiLeaks releases

2468
01:59:55,830 --> 01:59:53,920
there's nothing

2469
01:59:57,930 --> 01:59:55,840
by Podesta that's out there there's

2470
02:00:00,360 --> 01:59:57,940
there's like no statements that we have

2471
02:00:02,790 --> 02:00:00,370
a Podesta saying oh my god this is

2472
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:02,800
amazing stuff well done I mean what we

2473
02:00:07,620 --> 02:00:05,410
have is we know that DeLong was in

2474
02:00:09,450 --> 02:00:07,630
communication with Podesta we know that

2475
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:09,460
he had a Google hangout with Podesta

2476
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:10,810
along with some of his people like

2477
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:14,290
McCaslin and the other two gentlemen

2478
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:17,050
mm-hmm compelling the Lockheed gentleman

2479
02:00:26,010 --> 02:00:21,850
and NORAD I've got them at the tip of my

2480
02:00:27,810 --> 02:00:26,020
tongue anyway the thing is he he

2481
02:00:29,220 --> 02:00:27,820
community he reached out to Podesta I

2482
02:00:32,130 --> 02:00:29,230
don't know how much Podesta reached out

2483
02:00:35,419 --> 02:00:32,140
to him it's not clear to me that this

2484
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:35,429
was any of Podesta's initiative so

2485
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:37,330
personally I don't know how much on

2486
02:00:44,729 --> 02:00:39,280
board Podesta was ever with what Tom

2487
02:00:47,550 --> 02:00:44,739
DeLonge was was doing his whole to the

2488
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:47,560
stars Academy I I mean people have tried

2489
02:00:51,260 --> 02:00:49,210
criticizing this as saying oh it's just

2490
02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:51,270
marketing it's just trying to make money

2491
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:53,710
well let him make money people are

2492
02:00:59,780 --> 02:00:55,570
allowed to make money and they're even

2493
02:01:03,689 --> 02:01:02,280
just this is not disclosure I don't know

2494
02:01:04,229 --> 02:01:03,699
what his business plan it makes no sense

2495
02:01:06,990 --> 02:01:04,239
to me

2496
02:01:09,260 --> 02:01:07,000
how are you gonna make money how are you

2497
02:01:12,209 --> 02:01:09,270
gonna raise enough money to compete with

2498
02:01:13,470 --> 02:01:12,219
Lockheed skunkworks and create UFO tech

2499
02:01:15,419 --> 02:01:13,480
I have no idea how he thinks he's going

2500
02:01:17,610 --> 02:01:15,429
to do that he's got some very

2501
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:17,620
interesting brilliant people on board

2502
02:01:21,919 --> 02:01:20,410
but I have not the slightest clue how he

2503
02:01:24,900 --> 02:01:21,929
thinks he's going to be able to generate

2504
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:24,910
money with a venture that's half science

2505
02:01:27,030 --> 02:01:26,770
and half entertainment what's that all

2506
02:01:29,700 --> 02:01:27,040
about

2507
02:01:33,180 --> 02:01:29,710
I don't know so the business model makes

2508
02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:33,190
no sense to me the idea of wanting to

2509
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:35,710
get the UFO subject out there raise

2510
02:01:42,439 --> 02:01:38,290
consciousness with it yes create good

2511
02:01:45,209 --> 02:01:42,449
quality videos do it create intelligent

2512
02:01:47,669 --> 02:01:45,219
pieces of information for people to grab

2513
02:01:49,860 --> 02:01:47,679
on to the UFO subject I think that's we

2514
02:01:54,330 --> 02:01:49,870
need me then if he can do that then more

2515
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:54,340
power to him he had said this was about

2516
02:02:00,930 --> 02:01:57,250
two three weeks ago that he was getting

2517
02:02:02,700 --> 02:02:00,940
ready to release and I talked to Peter

2518
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:02,710
La Venta last week on coast-to-coast

2519
02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:06,010
about this that there were

2520
02:02:11,490 --> 02:02:08,710
bunch of videos that he was about to

2521
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:11,500
release that had not been seen by the

2522
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:14,770
public before I'm still waiting for

2523
02:02:20,729 --> 02:02:18,610
those did you hear about this and if he

2524
02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:20,739
does really I mean how does that affect

2525
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:22,030
you do you think that there would be

2526
02:02:26,910 --> 02:02:24,850
something revolutionary to be released

2527
02:02:29,460 --> 02:02:26,920
well I didn't know that so videos that

2528
02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:29,470
would be released by whom and saying

2529
02:02:35,190 --> 02:02:32,500
what didn't I yes Tom is in possession

2530
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:35,200
of videos that have not been seen in the

2531
02:02:41,370 --> 02:02:37,690
public or released to the public with

2532
02:02:43,470 --> 02:02:41,380
UFOs we'll have a lot of respect for

2533
02:02:47,729 --> 02:02:43,480
Peter Levin de Peter lavinda I know him

2534
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:47,739
personally and I think very highly of

2535
02:02:55,410 --> 02:02:53,650
Peter so I I trust his judgment so I

2536
02:02:57,630 --> 02:02:55,420
guess all I would say is that Peter la

2537
02:02:59,250 --> 02:02:57,640
venta is saying that he's got reason to

2538
02:03:00,900 --> 02:02:59,260
think that Tom DeLonge has got something

2539
02:03:04,229 --> 02:03:00,910
interesting then sure I'd like to know

2540
02:03:06,510 --> 02:03:04,239
what it is the only thing is that and I

2541
02:03:10,350 --> 02:03:06,520
mean I met Tom DeLonge and I had no

2542
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:10,360
reason to think anything bad of him but

2543
02:03:15,330 --> 02:03:13,330
you know he's had this before he said a

2544
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:15,340
number of times before about having a

2545
02:03:19,170 --> 02:03:17,110
major announcement a major disclosure a

2546
02:03:19,650 --> 02:03:19,180
major this and you know frankly nothing

2547
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:19,660
has happened

2548
02:03:26,010 --> 02:03:23,770
nothing so my attitude is I'll say it

2549
02:03:29,490 --> 02:03:26,020
when I see it I'll believe it when it's

2550
02:03:32,729 --> 02:03:29,500
out there and until then you know our

2551
02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:32,739
field is so filled with anticipation and

2552
02:03:37,890 --> 02:03:34,750
it's like it's almost like it's a

2553
02:03:40,410 --> 02:03:37,900
marketing strategy like like everyone's

2554
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:40,420
being encouraged to find the next big

2555
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:42,010
thing to throw out to the public because

2556
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:43,690
we've got to we got to keep keep it

2557
02:03:50,580 --> 02:03:47,050
stirring the pot and I have I resist

2558
02:03:52,050 --> 02:03:50,590
this and let me you know let me just say

2559
02:03:53,190 --> 02:03:52,060
I'm gonna take a minute here and I

2560
02:03:54,330 --> 02:03:53,200
mentioned you I don't think you know

2561
02:03:56,220 --> 02:03:54,340
this and I haven't said this to many

2562
02:03:58,710 --> 02:03:56,230
people I myself I'm in the process of

2563
02:04:02,100 --> 02:03:58,720
doing a redesign of my entire presence

2564
02:04:04,050 --> 02:04:02,110
in the UFO community how so I have I'm

2565
02:04:06,270 --> 02:04:04,060
developing a tremendous amount of new

2566
02:04:08,030 --> 02:04:06,280
and fresh content for a revamped website

2567
02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:08,040
and that's going to be available

2568
02:04:14,610 --> 02:04:13,120
I expect before the year is out there's

2569
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:14,620
gonna be a lot of new stuff that I'm

2570
02:04:19,069 --> 02:04:17,530
I'll be offering so I myself I'm I'm

2571
02:04:22,879 --> 02:04:19,079
very aware

2572
02:04:25,609 --> 02:04:22,889
of providing of the need to provide

2573
02:04:29,629 --> 02:04:25,619
information to a market that wants that

2574
02:04:31,430 --> 02:04:29,639
is hungry for information on UFOs about

2575
02:04:33,379 --> 02:04:31,440
what I don't want to do I don't like

2576
02:04:35,689 --> 02:04:33,389
getting into the habit of like keeping

2577
02:04:36,950 --> 02:04:35,699
people dangling like oh here's here's a

2578
02:04:38,930 --> 02:04:36,960
little treat I'm gonna throw attitudes

2579
02:04:41,030 --> 02:04:38,940
just wait just wait for it this is gonna

2580
02:04:42,859 --> 02:04:41,040
be the new the new revelation right

2581
02:04:44,660 --> 02:04:42,869
nothing I don't like when I see that

2582
02:04:47,359 --> 02:04:44,670
happening and it happened so much in

2583
02:04:49,549 --> 02:04:47,369
this field and I'm afraid that Tom

2584
02:04:51,799 --> 02:04:49,559
DeLonge is doing it too and he better

2585
02:04:54,140 --> 02:04:51,809
deliver if he's got some seriously good

2586
02:04:55,430 --> 02:04:54,150
videos and deliver the damn videos and

2587
02:04:57,530 --> 02:04:55,440
let us look at it and we can decide

2588
02:05:00,220 --> 02:04:57,540
what's what's important about it and

2589
02:05:03,470 --> 02:05:00,230
speaking that Richards gonna reveal this

2590
02:05:05,990 --> 02:05:03,480
next week I'm just kidding right you're

2591
02:05:08,060 --> 02:05:06,000
just kidding just kidding our guest

2592
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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church i'm the game

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changer network and kg are a the planets

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our guest tonight is Richard Dolan and

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now I'm gonna have some fun with Richard

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here okay now on this last segment

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Richard I'm gonna go to and a couple of

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zones where you and I have never gone

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before so now yeah don't freak out let's

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have some fun but so far I have to tell

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you I'm enjoying tonight yeah we always

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have great conversations that's that's

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the best thing one day I will tape

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secretly one of our conversations that

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we have privately and run that on the

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air so so listen is this what if let's

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speculate in an alternate you know in in

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supermans bizarro world

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right Hillary gets elected and discloses

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the UFO just goes full-on is she does

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she get a pass card on being the the

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evil witch dude sure yeah I mean well

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she would get she has to get props any

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any president who would do that would

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definitely be doing a service for

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humankind not the only thing that we'd

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have to keep in mind is you know what

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what is going on with the disclosure so

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is it a disclosure with a purpose and

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the purpose is probably not going to be

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a purely humanitarian philanthropic

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purpose so we've got to find out what's

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going on and think about you know Tom

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DeLonge we were just talking about him

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and his book secret machines and the the

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argument essentially that you know that

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the secrecy is actually being kept by

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really good people who have got our best

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interests in mind they're protecting us

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from something that's really dangerous

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and scary and and that's a conclusion

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that I don't agree with I think that I

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strongly disagree with it looking at the

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history of secrecy I think I'm in a good

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position to disagree here the secrecy

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has taken on a life of its own that is

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positively evil

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and that has gone against the very fiber

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of what it means to be a free citizen of

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a republic

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it's betrayed what we are and and

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there's a lot of people have gained a

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lot of power and profit as a result of

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it so I guess what I'm saying is my fear

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would be that any politician would make

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a disclosure and then spin it in such a

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way as to say ah well we're doing this

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for your protection we did this for your

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protection and hope that's okay and you

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know and then of course how much are

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they going to be disclosing and how much

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are they really going to be willing to

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talk about the fact that we have any

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disclosure at all is going to be a good

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thing because that gets the conversation

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moving so I I do want to make make it

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clear that I would I would be happy

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about that but very few I can't imagine

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a disclosure that's going to be a

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completely truthful one I think it's

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going to be filled with deception and

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lies and spin just like any other

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political act you're in Boulder Colorado

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you're taping the next season of your

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series you're in Boulder flying saucer

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lands alien steps off he comes up to you

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and says take me to a smoke shop do you

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extraterrestrial alien says to you let's

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smoke weed you say yes any person's job

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would be to smoke lots of guns with any

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extraterrestrial that that asks see see

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everybody see that's the real Richard

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Dolan right there we're talking about

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internet interstellar relations here

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you've got it you got to take one for

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the team be your duty yeah yeah it would

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be your duty absolutely the flat earth

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the flat earth Richard what is going on

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here why are so many buying into Flat

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Earth theory and why hasn't it gone away

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oh my goodness yeah it's I I have I

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don't I don't even know how to answer

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that honestly it isn't to my mind it is

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one of the most ludicrous ridiculous

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things that I have ever heard

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like really I heard and I've heard a lot

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of out there things and I do have a very

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open mind I like to think I don't

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understand it

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I don't understand why there are people

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who actually are real flat-earthers but

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they are they're actually out there and

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they've got their own theory about the

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conspiracy of all the satellites and how

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satellites are not accurately providing

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information somehow this is absurd I

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mean I don't know what to say

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read the history of Ferdinand Magellan

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how he sailed around the world how how

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else do we have telecommunications that

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can function from New York to Beijing or

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New York to Moscow or in New York to

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Sydney Australia

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these are predicated on very

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sophisticated mathematics and physics

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that would not work they're all

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predicated on the idea of a spherical

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earth that is roughly twenty five

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thousand miles in diameter that has a

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certain kind of electromagnetic casing

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around it and all of the other things

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they don't work any other way I don't

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understand these people

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Wow how how has it lasted this long I I

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don't understand I really thought

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Richard I swear and I have been vocal

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about this I have posted in social media

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02:15:42,989 --> 02:15:40,269
enough about this that I thought it was

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going to be passe and we will be able to

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joke about it you know Flat Earth was so

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last that's another one people get

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really worked up over this idea and it's

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all based on a complete misunderstanding

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of Nelson Mandela to begin with that's

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the funny part of it waitwait Mandela

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02:16:08,909 --> 02:16:06,039
effect is real no no Richard so the

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Mandela effect is based on an idea first

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of all yes this woman who knows no

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history

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02:16:15,359 --> 02:16:13,599
nearly right right believe that she had

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heard oh my god I heard Nelson Mandela

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had died in prison wrong I'm sure I

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guarantee you I would bet any amount of

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02:16:25,470 --> 02:16:23,710
money she was thinking of Steven Biko

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who by the way they wrote a song about

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02:16:31,770 --> 02:16:28,420
in Peter Gabriel great song Steven Biko

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was a South African activist who was

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beaten to death in a prison cell in the

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late 1970s and he did get some attention

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02:16:41,849 --> 02:16:39,370
and it was a very famous case so this

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lady like everyone else who doesn't know

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02:16:45,660 --> 02:16:43,269
any history or any politics or any

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02:16:47,370 --> 02:16:45,670
anything has this idea that oh yeah but

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02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:47,380
I heard Nelson Mandela died in prison no

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02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:50,170
that was Biko so out of that complete

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02:16:57,320 --> 02:16:53,050
miss misapprehension right she creates

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this phony of phenomena which the only

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02:17:01,950 --> 02:17:00,219
examples i mean i've listened i wasted

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02:17:04,889 --> 02:17:01,960
hours of my life listening to Mandela

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02:17:08,669 --> 02:17:04,899
effect claims on YouTube for all the

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examples are for movies some are some

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02:17:13,889 --> 02:17:11,500
are 90% of them I know I know well

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02:17:16,530 --> 02:17:13,899
that's where we're going then give it up

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02:17:18,540 --> 02:17:16,540
I know okay I know but it just messes

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02:17:23,790 --> 02:17:18,550
with my head there are a couple of

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02:17:27,629 --> 02:17:23,800
things that I have memories of that are

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02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:27,639
incorrect today and it bothers me and

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02:17:31,500 --> 02:17:29,530
I'll give you an example let me let me

2848
02:17:33,089 --> 02:17:31,510
quiz you this has nothing to do with the

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movies forget about the sort of Three's

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Company no yeah right all right no let's

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02:17:41,129 --> 02:17:36,250
not go there

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but you went to college so that means

2853
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you enjoyed ramen noodles correct right

2854
02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:48,429
actually I did not do ramen noodles when

2855
02:17:51,209 --> 02:17:49,090
I was in college

2856
02:17:53,179 --> 02:17:51,219
okay well now now I'm not buying you're

2857
02:17:57,959 --> 02:17:53,189
saying maybe a little later in graduate

2858
02:18:00,660 --> 02:17:57,969
but you remember cup of noodles right in

2859
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:00,670
the Styrofoam cup I remember there is a

2860
02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:03,250
cup of noodles right right right cup of

2861
02:18:08,580 --> 02:18:05,889
noodles it's not oh yeah it's not called

2862
02:18:12,419 --> 02:18:08,590
cup of noodles okay what is it called

2863
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:12,429
it's called cup noodles there was never

2864
02:18:21,810 --> 02:18:18,130
an O there and well maybe I don't know I

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02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:21,820
know I know but I'm just saying I

2866
02:18:27,679 --> 02:18:24,450
remember cop

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02:18:28,820 --> 02:18:27,689
Oh noodles and I ate the crap out of

2868
02:18:31,610 --> 02:18:28,830
those when I was a kid

2869
02:18:34,129 --> 02:18:31,620
right and to find out that its cup

2870
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:34,139
noodles cup it doesn't even roll off the

2871
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:37,290
tongue correctly it just messes with my

2872
02:18:41,179 --> 02:18:38,880
I agree

2873
02:18:42,620 --> 02:18:41,189
we messes with my head I don't I don't

2874
02:18:44,629 --> 02:18:42,630
know where that's bring out my old

2875
02:18:50,419 --> 02:18:44,639
typewriter and write a letter to the

2876
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:50,429
president so it's late yeah yeah it's

2877
02:18:55,730 --> 02:18:53,370
things like that but you know I go and I

2878
02:18:57,650 --> 02:18:55,740
look at this Mandela effect thing man

2879
02:19:00,950 --> 02:18:57,660
I'll give you another example something

2880
02:19:05,870 --> 02:19:00,960
else that just messes with me

2881
02:19:08,929 --> 02:19:05,880
the original shuttle crash right that

2882
02:19:12,560 --> 02:19:08,939
original crash Challenger Challenger yes

2883
02:19:15,500 --> 02:19:12,570
in and what year do you remember where

2884
02:19:19,640 --> 02:19:15,510
you were when that happened I do

2885
02:19:22,459 --> 02:19:19,650
actually yes okay so what do you think's

2886
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:22,469
what year was it in February February

2887
02:19:32,929 --> 02:19:26,969
1986 February 19 886 you feel confident

2888
02:19:33,679 --> 02:19:32,939
about that you feel pretty strong yes I

2889
02:19:36,589 --> 02:19:33,689
do

2890
02:19:38,830 --> 02:19:36,599
really when when when are you telling me

2891
02:19:46,100 --> 02:19:38,840
it happened what if I said it was

2892
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:46,110
January 85 no that that is not the case

2893
02:19:50,540 --> 02:19:48,930
it didn't happen in January 85 really

2894
02:19:50,870 --> 02:19:50,550
why do you think it happened in January

2895
02:19:54,950 --> 02:19:50,880
85

2896
02:19:56,780 --> 02:19:54,960
well because my band that I had back

2897
02:19:59,870 --> 02:19:56,790
then right

2898
02:20:04,300 --> 02:19:59,880
had a singer in it that I used to drive

2899
02:20:08,330 --> 02:20:04,310
to work and and he was only in the band

2900
02:20:11,810 --> 02:20:08,340
it was January 1986 he was in the band

2901
02:20:13,700 --> 02:20:11,820
in in 1985 for three months and I

2902
02:20:15,410 --> 02:20:13,710
remembered I had to drive him to work

2903
02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:15,420
because he didn't have a car and I

2904
02:20:20,060 --> 02:20:18,330
needed him to pay his rent and so I come

2905
02:20:21,920 --> 02:20:20,070
back after dropping him off and I'm

2906
02:20:24,500 --> 02:20:21,930
watching television you know eight

2907
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:24,510
o'clock in the morning and the accident

2908
02:20:29,719 --> 02:20:27,930
happened so I this is one of my memories

2909
02:20:31,490 --> 02:20:29,729
all right so you're telling me you

2910
02:20:34,580 --> 02:20:31,500
remember this happening in January 85

2911
02:20:36,590 --> 02:20:34,590
when I was told it was 1986 and I'm

2912
02:20:38,030 --> 02:20:36,600
going back thinking about my life in

2913
02:20:41,420 --> 02:20:38,040
1986

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02:20:45,170 --> 02:20:41,430
we're gonna tell you I remember when the

2915
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:45,180
Challenger happened in January of 85 I

2916
02:20:51,500 --> 02:20:47,370
know where I was living I was actually I

2917
02:20:53,990 --> 02:20:51,510
just graduated from Alfred University in

2918
02:20:57,889 --> 02:20:54,000
upstate New York the month before then

2919
02:21:01,460 --> 02:20:57,899
and I was living at home on Long Island

2920
02:21:04,040 --> 02:21:01,470
with my mother in January of 1985 when

2921
02:21:07,130 --> 02:21:04,050
the Challenger blew up a little over a

2922
02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:07,140
year later in February of 86 I was in

2923
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:09,600
Rochester New York and I know exactly

2924
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:11,370
where I was living and I remembered

2925
02:21:16,940 --> 02:21:14,010
seeing the I didn't see it live I caught

2926
02:21:20,420 --> 02:21:16,950
it like minutes later on the news but I

2927
02:21:21,740 --> 02:21:20,430
remembered that day absolutely and I was

2928
02:21:23,210 --> 02:21:21,750
not on Long Island I was in Rochester

2929
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:23,220
which is where I'm supposed to be in

2930
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:27,450
1986 and so I I have had no no other

2931
02:21:32,300 --> 02:21:30,930
memory yeah and I don't know how you can

2932
02:21:34,820 --> 02:21:32,310
think that it was January I think you

2933
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:34,830
got your dates wrong yeah it's it's

2934
02:21:41,179 --> 02:21:37,710
messing with me because you need

2935
02:21:43,550 --> 02:21:41,189
seriously go back over your personal

2936
02:21:46,250 --> 02:21:43,560
records and your photographs and all of

2937
02:21:49,370 --> 02:21:46,260
the other things and really put yourself

2938
02:21:50,510 --> 02:21:49,380
back into that time and I believe you're

2939
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:50,520
gonna have this moment you're gonna say

2940
02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:54,720
oh damn it what really was 1986 yeah you

2941
02:22:02,330 --> 02:21:56,850
know and it was it was it was long

2942
02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:02,340
enough ago that maybe I've just you know

2943
02:22:08,300 --> 02:22:04,770
remembered this wrong over the years so

2944
02:22:10,969 --> 02:22:08,310
now it is you know it's embedded and I

2945
02:22:13,010 --> 02:22:10,979
can't get the wrong memory out you know

2946
02:22:16,099 --> 02:22:13,020
I can't uh you know overwrite those

2947
02:22:19,730 --> 02:22:16,109
sectors of the hard drive but it's

2948
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:19,740
interesting that you think I mean our

2949
02:22:25,880 --> 02:22:22,170
memories aren't infallible no that's the

2950
02:22:29,510 --> 02:22:25,890
thing about them and we don't always

2951
02:22:31,690 --> 02:22:29,520
remember things the way that we do with

2952
02:22:33,710 --> 02:22:31,700
the way that we think we we do and I

2953
02:22:37,219 --> 02:22:33,720
suspect this what happened I think a lot

2954
02:22:40,639 --> 02:22:37,229
of this Mandela effect is simply a case

2955
02:22:43,030 --> 02:22:40,649
of people you know miss remembering

2956
02:22:46,190 --> 02:22:43,040
things or not knowing their history and

2957
02:22:48,620 --> 02:22:46,200
and then convincing themselves that that

2958
02:22:51,650 --> 02:22:48,630
somehow they slipped into an alternate

2959
02:22:54,350 --> 02:22:51,660
reality and I just don't believe

2960
02:22:57,920 --> 02:22:54,360
it and when we when we talk you don't

2961
02:23:02,000 --> 02:22:57,930
think that it is possible are you are

2962
02:23:04,670 --> 02:23:02,010
you dismissing that the I mean parallel

2963
02:23:07,160 --> 02:23:04,680
worlds and the multi world theory that

2964
02:23:10,900 --> 02:23:07,170
that part is that that is definitely a

2965
02:23:14,950 --> 02:23:10,910
real situation quantum theory is

2966
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:14,960
definitely a real situation it is a

2967
02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:19,920
speculated reality by many many leading

2968
02:23:23,900 --> 02:23:22,080
physicists and it could be true that

2969
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:23,910
there are we live in a multiverse multi

2970
02:23:29,511 --> 02:23:27,120
universes we don't know that you know we

2971
02:23:33,051 --> 02:23:29,521
again I I just feel like this is another

2972
02:23:35,091 --> 02:23:33,061
case of we take things as gospel we take

2973
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:35,101
like these really cool ideas that

2974
02:23:37,881 --> 02:23:36,720
circulate for an a long enough period of

2975
02:23:39,500 --> 02:23:37,891
time and then we just say oh well it's

2976
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:39,510
obviously the case and we don't know

2977
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:41,370
that it's obviously the case it could be

2978
02:23:45,710 --> 02:23:43,290
the case I just watch the whole series

2979
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:45,720
of Fringe which is awesome by the way

2980
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:47,370
Marvin they're dealing with alternate

2981
02:23:52,761 --> 02:23:49,410
universes and it's it was super cool and

2982
02:23:57,011 --> 02:23:52,771
maybe that's the case and and and I'll

2983
02:24:00,290 --> 02:23:57,021
go further I do believe that there are

2984
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:00,300
beings that can phase into and phase out

2985
02:24:05,930 --> 02:24:02,370
of our let's call our reality now where

2986
02:24:08,450 --> 02:24:05,940
where are they when they're not here is

2987
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:08,460
that another dimension well okay sure I

2988
02:24:11,511 --> 02:24:10,170
don't really know how to understand what

2989
02:24:13,700 --> 02:24:11,521
another dimension is and maybe most

2990
02:24:17,180 --> 02:24:13,710
people can't either but let's say that

2991
02:24:18,770 --> 02:24:17,190
there's other dimensions out there so

2992
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:18,780
another thing it's not possible and I'm

2993
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:22,010
not saying that a Mandela effects is

2994
02:24:25,100 --> 02:24:23,250
impossible

2995
02:24:28,341 --> 02:24:25,110
off the top of my head I'm just saying

2996
02:24:29,810 --> 02:24:28,351
dude I have spent way too much time and

2997
02:24:32,210 --> 02:24:29,820
too much of my life that I'll never get

2998
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:32,220
back listening to the most dumbass

2999
02:24:39,650 --> 02:24:36,930
Mandela effect explanation and like just

3000
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:39,660
give it up and find something else I

3001
02:24:48,890 --> 02:24:44,690
know more interesting I know sorry yeah

3002
02:24:52,011 --> 02:24:48,900
hey hey I know right you just never know

3003
02:24:55,551 --> 02:24:52,021
and when we talk about the possibility

3004
02:24:57,801 --> 02:24:55,561
of interdimensional interactions with et

3005
02:25:00,830 --> 02:24:57,811
or crafts and the possibility of things

3006
02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:00,840
phasing in and out of our vision when I

3007
02:25:05,010 --> 02:25:03,120
say phasing you know coming into our

3008
02:25:07,170 --> 02:25:05,020
frequency so we can

3009
02:25:09,420 --> 02:25:07,180
see it for a second and then it and then

3010
02:25:11,700 --> 02:25:09,430
it changes its frequency and it's gone

3011
02:25:14,340 --> 02:25:11,710
it's still there we just don't see it

3012
02:25:17,639 --> 02:25:14,350
there's probably so many things around

3013
02:25:20,279 --> 02:25:17,649
us right now that are walking in an in

3014
02:25:22,109 --> 02:25:20,289
our right now next to you in the room

3015
02:25:23,189 --> 02:25:22,119
that you are in right now there could be

3016
02:25:24,809 --> 02:25:23,199
something right there

3017
02:25:29,819 --> 02:25:24,819
you just can't see it it's on another

3018
02:25:32,639 --> 02:25:29,829
freak literally two million inputs into

3019
02:25:34,740 --> 02:25:32,649
our sensory perception at this very

3020
02:25:36,779 --> 02:25:34,750
moment every moment if two million

3021
02:25:39,359 --> 02:25:36,789
sensory inputs of which your brain can

3022
02:25:41,969 --> 02:25:39,369
only make sense of I think forty

3023
02:25:43,229 --> 02:25:41,979
thousand which is actually a lot so but

3024
02:25:44,639 --> 02:25:43,239
that means like ninety you at

3025
02:25:46,529 --> 02:25:44,649
ninety-eight percent or whatever it is

3026
02:25:48,420 --> 02:25:46,539
of all the stuff that's around us our

3027
02:25:50,819 --> 02:25:48,430
brains ignore because we have to because

3028
02:25:52,590 --> 02:25:50,829
we would we would go insane over the

3029
02:25:55,050 --> 02:25:52,600
life we were to deal with all of it we

3030
02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:55,060
couldn't handle it so we have to so by

3031
02:26:00,000 --> 02:25:57,760
our very nature we are restricting

3032
02:26:01,500 --> 02:26:00,010
reality to an incredible extent when you

3033
02:26:04,109 --> 02:26:01,510
think about it in that sense we're

3034
02:26:05,490 --> 02:26:04,119
really very severely filtering reality

3035
02:26:07,859 --> 02:26:05,500
so there's a lot going on around us

3036
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:07,869
without a doubt and think I often like

3037
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:10,960
to think of like fish in a pond and you

3038
02:26:14,099 --> 02:26:12,970
know a fish in a pond they know they

3039
02:26:16,920 --> 02:26:14,109
don't even know that they're in water

3040
02:26:18,809 --> 02:26:16,930
they much less that there's air outside

3041
02:26:21,059 --> 02:26:18,819
of the water or that there's land or

3042
02:26:23,460 --> 02:26:21,069
that there's stars in the sky and and

3043
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:23,470
because they're fish right and someone

3044
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:25,210
goes into that pond and they can see the

3045
02:26:28,559 --> 02:26:26,800
little fish in the fish alike I don't

3046
02:26:31,229 --> 02:26:28,569
even know what that is but that's like

3047
02:26:34,109 --> 02:26:31,239
us we're fish in our pond we have our on

3048
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:34,119
our pond as our space-time reality and

3049
02:26:38,609 --> 02:26:35,770
that's that's what we're used to but

3050
02:26:40,139 --> 02:26:38,619
what if there are entities beings that

3051
02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:40,149
just like we can go into a fish pond

3052
02:26:44,370 --> 02:26:42,699
they can come into our little fish pond

3053
02:26:46,679 --> 02:26:44,380
that's our little space time and then

3054
02:26:49,319 --> 02:26:46,689
leave it so maybe because we're a little

3055
02:26:50,519 --> 02:26:49,329
more aware than little fish we can't

3056
02:26:53,429 --> 02:26:50,529
perceive that there's someone entering

3057
02:26:55,649 --> 02:26:53,439
our reality but maybe we can't really

3058
02:26:57,090 --> 02:26:55,659
understand what they're doing and then

3059
02:26:58,979 --> 02:26:57,100
they just leave our reality because

3060
02:27:01,290 --> 02:26:58,989
they've got mastery over space and time

3061
02:27:02,849 --> 02:27:01,300
in a way that we don't I could easily

3062
02:27:07,189 --> 02:27:02,859
see that being the case in fact I

3063
02:27:09,719 --> 02:27:07,199
believe that is the case so so as far as

3064
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:09,729
well I'll give you an example of that

3065
02:27:15,480 --> 02:27:11,439
and for the audience

3066
02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:15,490
Richard and I we were we were having a

3067
02:27:21,450 --> 02:27:18,490
Ardi in joshua tree this is a - two

3068
02:27:23,671 --> 02:27:21,460
years ago and we were talking about

3069
02:27:26,761 --> 02:27:23,681
night fishing and seeing something in

3070
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:26,771
the sky and we had mike Berra was there

3071
02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:29,050
being you know the bump on the log and

3072
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:33,130
and whatever and so we were like okay

3073
02:27:37,890 --> 02:27:35,110
wouldn't it be cool if something just

3074
02:27:41,220 --> 02:27:37,900
appeared and so if this is for the

3075
02:27:44,011 --> 02:27:41,230
audience Richard and I and and Bera walk

3076
02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:44,021
out into this little parking lot area in

3077
02:27:50,370 --> 02:27:46,030
front of the party we look up in the sky

3078
02:27:53,580 --> 02:27:50,380
and at that moment as if on cue right

3079
02:27:56,750 --> 02:27:53,590
Prichard on kids right above us

3080
02:27:59,881 --> 02:27:56,760
this thing lights up and starts moving

3081
02:28:01,671 --> 02:27:59,891
to our right and it wasn't very high in

3082
02:28:04,171 --> 02:28:01,681
the sky either it wasn't like it was

3083
02:28:05,850 --> 02:28:04,181
satellite high you know it's a few

3084
02:28:08,131 --> 02:28:05,860
thousand feet in the air maybe I don't

3085
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:08,141
know a mile up in the sky but at light

3086
02:28:13,980 --> 02:28:11,170
sight and and takes off in a straight

3087
02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:13,990
line at a pretty good clip too as well

3088
02:28:19,650 --> 02:28:17,980
and it was a very unusual object I have

3089
02:28:22,740 --> 02:28:19,660
to agree with you completely it wasn't

3090
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:22,750
like an ordinary aircraft in my opinion

3091
02:28:27,211 --> 02:28:24,250
as well as in yours it was really

3092
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:27,221
interesting again could that be some

3093
02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:29,650
type of interdimensional thing because

3094
02:28:34,290 --> 02:28:32,290
it wasn't there and then all of a sudden

3095
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:34,300
the thing lights up and I know it sounds

3096
02:28:40,051 --> 02:28:37,210
crazy to the audience hearing you and I

3097
02:28:43,140 --> 02:28:40,061
talk about it in these terms but I don't

3098
02:28:45,450 --> 02:28:43,150
have any other way to describe it except

3099
02:28:48,961 --> 02:28:45,460
for how it happened and and so this

3100
02:28:51,150 --> 02:28:48,971
white ball I guess who we could call it

3101
02:28:53,160 --> 02:28:51,160
that it lights up and it takes off and

3102
02:28:54,180 --> 02:28:53,170
we're watching it a night vision and you

3103
02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:54,190
and I and Bera

3104
02:28:59,671 --> 02:28:55,840
we're all trying to figure out what we

3105
02:29:02,671 --> 02:28:59,681
were looking at now how do you how do

3106
02:29:04,790 --> 02:29:02,681
you rationalize that in your Richard

3107
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:04,800
Dolan pragmatic black-and-white

3108
02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:08,410
historian college professor mind well

3109
02:29:11,551 --> 02:29:09,760
I'm not I'm not really black and like

3110
02:29:13,381 --> 02:29:11,561
there's a lot of gray area and a lot of

3111
02:29:17,700 --> 02:29:13,391
shades in the world that I live in to be

3112
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:17,710
honest with you I listen I I think it's

3113
02:29:22,711 --> 02:29:19,570
entirely possible that these objects

3114
02:29:24,841 --> 02:29:22,721
react to our minds almost twenty years

3115
02:29:26,580 --> 02:29:24,851
ago at a UFO sighting I talked about it

3116
02:29:28,599 --> 02:29:26,590
many times with my son it was then three

3117
02:29:30,760 --> 02:29:28,609
years old in front of my house

3118
02:29:32,409 --> 02:29:30,770
and I believe then and I believe now

3119
02:29:34,869 --> 02:29:32,419
that that thing somehow got into my head

3120
02:29:36,729 --> 02:29:34,879
I believe that it seemed like it I

3121
02:29:38,920 --> 02:29:36,739
remembered watching this incredibly

3122
02:29:40,540 --> 02:29:38,930
bright object in the sky holding my

3123
02:29:42,460 --> 02:29:40,550
three-year-old son's hand in front of my

3124
02:29:44,439 --> 02:29:42,470
house thinking that's the brightest

3125
02:29:45,880 --> 02:29:44,449
thing I've ever seen and at first I

3126
02:29:47,949 --> 02:29:45,890
thought my conscious mind was thinking

3127
02:29:49,989 --> 02:29:47,959
was just a highly reflective aircraft

3128
02:29:52,119 --> 02:29:49,999
but really reflect him what could it be

3129
02:29:53,529 --> 02:29:52,129
and then this thought entered my mind

3130
02:29:55,029 --> 02:29:53,539
that's the only way I can put it it's

3131
02:29:58,420 --> 02:29:55,039
and that thought was don't look away

3132
02:30:00,760 --> 02:29:58,430
you'll never see this again and that I

3133
02:30:02,529 --> 02:30:00,770
thought had no logic to it because there

3134
02:30:05,229 --> 02:30:02,539
is nowhere that that object could hide

3135
02:30:06,729 --> 02:30:05,239
it was a completely blue sky and even if

3136
02:30:08,979 --> 02:30:06,739
it lost its reflection it would still be

3137
02:30:10,540 --> 02:30:08,989
very visible to me but I had this idea

3138
02:30:12,460 --> 02:30:10,550
don't look away don't look away don't

3139
02:30:14,949 --> 02:30:12,470
look away I had to look away for a

3140
02:30:17,199 --> 02:30:14,959
second to talk to my son for one second

3141
02:30:20,319 --> 02:30:17,209
and when I turned back it was just gone

3142
02:30:21,969 --> 02:30:20,329
and I mean that's not nearly as

3143
02:30:23,979 --> 02:30:21,979
interesting a sighting as countless

3144
02:30:25,719 --> 02:30:23,989
others that people have but it's just

3145
02:30:28,830 --> 02:30:25,729
one of countless examples of these

3146
02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:28,840
objects somehow like seemingly

3147
02:30:35,319 --> 02:30:31,850
interacting with our mind I've studied

3148
02:30:38,889 --> 02:30:35,329
many many cases of UFO sightings where

3149
02:30:40,630 --> 02:30:38,899
people have a strong reason to argue

3150
02:30:42,219 --> 02:30:40,640
that these objects were into their head

3151
02:30:45,369 --> 02:30:42,229
somehow there's like a telepathic

3152
02:30:46,989 --> 02:30:45,379
connection this is a real thing so did

3153
02:30:47,859 --> 02:30:46,999
it happen to us sure it could have

3154
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:47,869
happened to us

3155
02:30:53,229 --> 02:30:50,810
and we don't know how this happened in

3156
02:30:55,479 --> 02:30:53,239
terms of our physics but it does seem

3157
02:30:59,139 --> 02:30:55,489
that it's totally possible I want to

3158
02:31:01,630 --> 02:30:59,149
thank you again for coming on tonight

3159
02:31:04,750 --> 02:31:01,640
and for hanging out with the Sun on a

3160
02:31:07,300 --> 02:31:04,760
week that is is busy for all of us and

3161
02:31:09,519 --> 02:31:07,310
it's Thanksgiving week when is the book

3162
02:31:15,460 --> 02:31:09,529
coming out let's let's address that

3163
02:31:18,279 --> 02:31:15,470
really quick false flag book I am pretty

3164
02:31:20,830 --> 02:31:18,289
certain we'll be out in the early half

3165
02:31:23,859 --> 02:31:20,840
of 2018 so I am working on it it's

3166
02:31:25,689 --> 02:31:23,869
looking good writing is I'm satisfied

3167
02:31:27,460 --> 02:31:25,699
with a lot of it there's good research

3168
02:31:28,989 --> 02:31:27,470
in there and I think people will find it

3169
02:31:32,439 --> 02:31:28,999
very interesting and this is a book I

3170
02:31:34,479 --> 02:31:32,449
should say that is the first ever real

3171
02:31:37,029 --> 02:31:34,489
history of false flags as a phenomenon

3172
02:31:39,069 --> 02:31:37,039
and and in other words actions in which

3173
02:31:42,250 --> 02:31:39,079
governments or agencies do something

3174
02:31:43,809 --> 02:31:42,260
terrible I kill people or blow up things

3175
02:31:45,939 --> 02:31:43,819
or worse and then blame it on other

3176
02:31:48,760 --> 02:31:45,949
groups for a political game that's a

3177
02:31:51,550 --> 02:31:48,770
false flag there's a lot of it and I'm

3178
02:31:54,010 --> 02:31:51,560
doing a history of false flags there in

3179
02:31:56,170 --> 02:31:54,020
analytical history that which indicates

3180
02:31:57,550 --> 02:31:56,180
how this phenomenon has really changed

3181
02:31:59,559 --> 02:31:57,560
and mutated it's like a mutating virus

3182
02:32:01,719 --> 02:31:59,569
in our own air and they today they're

3183
02:32:04,420 --> 02:32:01,729
evermore sophisticated so that's the

3184
02:32:06,460 --> 02:32:04,430
first half of 2018 I am doing the

3185
02:32:09,670 --> 02:32:06,470
website overhaul I'm about to provide

3186
02:32:13,750 --> 02:32:09,680
massive new content for for the public

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02:32:15,489 --> 02:32:13,760
and so stay tuned for that publishing

3188
02:32:17,170 --> 02:32:15,499
books on Richard ol impressed by some

3189
02:32:18,700 --> 02:32:17,180
other interesting authors Mike Cleland

3190
02:32:20,559 --> 02:32:18,710
is about to do a sequel to the

3191
02:32:23,380 --> 02:32:20,569
messengers which is a fascinating book

3192
02:32:26,170 --> 02:32:23,390
all on owls and synchronicity a lot of

3193
02:32:28,809 --> 02:32:26,180
interest in that and I might bang out a

3194
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:28,819
booklet or two in the next month or so

3195
02:32:34,269 --> 02:32:31,210
as well are you speaking

3196
02:32:36,489 --> 02:32:34,279
not until no I don't I'm not doing any

3197
02:32:38,920 --> 02:32:36,499
engagements for the rest of this year

3198
02:32:41,590 --> 02:32:38,930
I've done some local talks here in

3199
02:32:43,149 --> 02:32:41,600
Rochester but I'll be in Phoenix not for

3200
02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:43,159
the International Congress they seem to

3201
02:32:48,010 --> 02:32:46,130
want me every other year so I won't be

3202
02:32:51,489 --> 02:32:48,020
there but I will be speaking at Phoenix

3203
02:32:54,370 --> 02:32:51,499
MUFON and in Sedona and I think that's

3204
02:32:56,229 --> 02:32:54,380
in February of 2018 so I'll be there and

3205
02:33:00,989 --> 02:32:56,239
I got a whole bunch of things going on

3206
02:33:07,170 --> 02:33:04,420
Conference in Northwest Arkansas and

3207
02:33:10,359 --> 02:33:07,180
then Tracy and I will be in Australia

3208
02:33:14,080 --> 02:33:10,369
with Katherine Austin Fitz one of the

3209
02:33:15,639 --> 02:33:14,090
great ladies of our era right in in in

3210
02:33:17,559 --> 02:33:15,649
the middle of Australia and then I'll be

3211
02:33:18,059 --> 02:33:17,569
a contact in the desert later in the

3212
02:33:21,160 --> 02:33:18,069
year

3213
02:33:23,439 --> 02:33:21,170
Toronto and June and after that I lose

3214
02:33:25,870 --> 02:33:23,449
track there you go thank you so much oh

3215
02:33:29,019 --> 02:33:25,880
oh oh before I say good night is there

3216
02:33:31,899 --> 02:33:29,029
gonna be a season two with false flags

3217
02:33:33,609 --> 02:33:31,909
in Gaia I think you're asking I don't

3218
02:33:35,380 --> 02:33:33,619
think so they haven't actually asked for

3219
02:33:38,050 --> 02:33:35,390
that the thing about the false flag show

3220
02:33:40,149 --> 02:33:38,060
and this is I mean it was kind of an

3221
02:33:42,609 --> 02:33:40,159
anomaly for Gaia they really don't like

3222
02:33:47,819 --> 02:33:42,619
to do political things in that show was

3223
02:33:50,410 --> 02:33:47,829
very political and I it's it's certainly

3224
02:33:52,179 --> 02:33:50,420
possible that I will do more work with

3225
02:33:54,250 --> 02:33:52,189
them I mean I've got a good relationship

3226
02:33:56,140 --> 02:33:54,260
with a lot of the folks over there I'd

3227
02:33:57,430 --> 02:33:56,150
be happy to consider another

3228
02:33:59,711 --> 02:33:57,440
project and there's a few that we've

3229
02:34:02,200 --> 02:33:59,721
talked about but I don't know about a

3230
02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:02,210
season two for false Flags I will point

3231
02:34:06,700 --> 02:34:04,490
out that that series was the only one I

3232
02:34:09,251 --> 02:34:06,710
think that they've ever had that was

3233
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:09,261
actually scripted out like really

3234
02:34:14,140 --> 02:34:11,210
written out and then hosted by that by

3235
02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:14,150
the person who who wrote it I took a lot

3236
02:34:21,310 --> 02:34:18,110
of time I created an actual like a like

3237
02:34:22,600 --> 02:34:21,320
a story a historical creation I was very

3238
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:22,610
happy with how that played out for them

3239
02:34:30,371 --> 02:34:26,210
yeah your thing that you did I I did see

3240
02:34:32,501 --> 02:34:30,381
it your for the season premiere of the

3241
02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:32,511
secret space program series that they

3242
02:34:38,470 --> 02:34:36,170
were doing and the one on JFK that was

3243
02:34:40,091 --> 02:34:38,480
and that was really really really really

3244
02:34:41,950 --> 02:34:40,101
well done that was pretty compelling

3245
02:34:43,810 --> 02:34:41,960
that was oh thank you yeah that was

3246
02:34:45,970 --> 02:34:43,820
really well done well thank you so much

3247
02:34:48,041 --> 02:34:45,980
Richard and have a great to give our

3248
02:34:50,770 --> 02:34:48,051
best to Tracy and just have a great safe

3249
02:34:53,140 --> 02:34:50,780
and fun Thanksgiving thank you so much

3250
02:34:55,240 --> 02:34:53,150
thanks it was a pleasure Jimmy and and

3251
02:34:56,831 --> 02:34:55,250
hey to all the fader nuts there you go

3252
02:34:57,520 --> 02:34:56,841
thank you so much Richard now go get

3253
02:34:59,980 --> 02:34:57,530
some sleep

3254
02:35:01,631 --> 02:34:59,990
yes sir I'll talk to you Richard Dolan

3255
02:35:05,740 --> 02:35:01,641
everybody thank you so much Richard

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02:35:08,261 --> 02:35:05,750
great conversation tonight and it's just

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3345
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all right welcome back fade to black

3346
02:39:45,250 --> 02:39:41,870
thank you Richard Dolan Richard bleep

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02:39:46,841 --> 02:39:45,260
and Dolan great conversation happy

3348
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Thanksgiving everybody there you go

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a very simple hashtag F 2 B is the

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3357
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go hi you're live on fade to black who's

3358
02:40:22,810 --> 02:40:18,500
calling you're live hello yeah you're

3359
02:40:24,580 --> 02:40:22,820
live right now oh did you read the tweet

3360
02:40:28,631 --> 02:40:24,590
I sent you a minute ago about cup

3361
02:40:31,740 --> 02:40:28,641
noodles oh yeah oh oh I did see that

3362
02:40:35,051 --> 02:40:31,750
yeah that they changed the name in 1993

3363
02:40:39,341 --> 02:40:35,061
yes I guess Richard was right the

3364
02:40:41,710 --> 02:40:39,351
Mandela effect isn't real it's fun to

3365
02:40:45,070 --> 02:40:41,720
contemplate it still messes with my head

3366
02:40:46,841 --> 02:40:45,080
man who really does yeah I was just like

3367
02:40:49,030 --> 02:40:46,851
you know I was like they were called a

3368
02:40:50,801 --> 02:40:49,040
cup of noodles and then I looked it up

3369
02:40:53,320 --> 02:40:50,811
and I saw that they changed the name in

3370
02:40:55,000 --> 02:40:53,330
93 thought I'd let you know you weren't

3371
02:40:59,140 --> 02:40:55,010
crazy yeah exactly

3372
02:41:01,930 --> 02:40:59,150
and it's it's reassuring but it's just I

3373
02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:01,940
know what my mind was you know that it

3374
02:41:10,690 --> 02:41:06,250
was definitely cut Oh noodles and and

3375
02:41:13,870 --> 02:41:10,700
when I yeah so I'm not crazy what's your

3376
02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:13,880
name hey chip thank you for the phone

3377
02:41:18,761 --> 02:41:15,290
call my friend and thank you for posting

3378
02:41:22,390 --> 02:41:18,771
that yeah you too

3379
02:41:26,410 --> 02:41:22,400
yeah he's absolutely right he posted

3380
02:41:29,350 --> 02:41:26,420
they've changed the name in 1993 and

3381
02:41:32,560 --> 02:41:29,360
when I was looking at all of the the

3382
02:41:35,530 --> 02:41:32,570
images of cup noodles and and have a

3383
02:41:37,360 --> 02:41:35,540
slight lead a minute no I'm not crate I

3384
02:41:38,591 --> 02:41:37,370
can't be let's go back to the phones hi

3385
02:41:43,060 --> 02:41:38,601
you're live I'm fade to black who's

3386
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:43,070
calling hi Jimmy this is Fallon this is

3387
02:41:49,030 --> 02:41:46,960
who this is Fallon Fallon how are you

3388
02:41:51,700 --> 02:41:49,040
I'm good thanks Ari

3389
02:41:53,679 --> 02:41:51,710
and what's on your mind tonight okay

3390
02:41:57,040 --> 02:41:53,689
well I'm calling about my favorite

3391
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:57,050
Mandela effect because I can't I can't

3392
02:42:03,670 --> 02:41:58,640
figure this one out and I think it's a

3393
02:42:05,920 --> 02:42:03,680
real one our position in the galaxy like

3394
02:42:08,110 --> 02:42:05,930
our solar systems position in the galaxy

3395
02:42:10,389 --> 02:42:08,120
when I was a kid it was always taught to

3396
02:42:12,610 --> 02:42:10,399
us that we were on the outer edge like

3397
02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:12,620
in the backwater is what Carl Sagan

3398
02:42:18,130 --> 02:42:16,160
would say right and so we were in the

3399
02:42:20,260 --> 02:42:18,140
Sagittarius arm and there's even video

3400
02:42:22,090 --> 02:42:20,270
clips of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking

3401
02:42:24,250 --> 02:42:22,100
about being in the Sagittarius arm and

3402
02:42:27,219 --> 02:42:24,260
Carl Sagan talking about being in the

3403
02:42:29,980 --> 02:42:27,229
Sagittarius arm but now we're like much

3404
02:42:34,030 --> 02:42:29,990
more in the center we're in Orion spur

3405
02:42:35,710 --> 02:42:34,040
right and there's no record it's not

3406
02:42:38,110 --> 02:42:35,720
like they said okay well we update it

3407
02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:38,120
you know are our tools and recalibrated

3408
02:42:42,790 --> 02:42:40,880
and now with our new technology we're in

3409
02:42:44,740 --> 02:42:42,800
a-- we realize we're in a different

3410
02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:44,750
place and so we've updated that now it's

3411
02:42:50,200 --> 02:42:47,210
just as we've always been in Orion's

3412
02:42:52,030 --> 02:42:50,210
birth but there's video of Carl Sagan

3413
02:42:55,000 --> 02:42:52,040
talking about being on the outer edge in

3414
02:42:56,830 --> 02:42:55,010
the Sagittarius arm and same for Neil

3415
02:42:59,380 --> 02:42:56,840
deGrasse Tyson I don't think those two

3416
02:43:03,040 --> 02:42:59,390
what most famous astronomers would get

3417
02:43:07,179 --> 02:43:03,050
it wrong woody and what do you what do

3418
02:43:11,380 --> 02:43:07,189
you make of that though because I I

3419
02:43:13,719 --> 02:43:11,390
remember the same thing whenever they

3420
02:43:15,370 --> 02:43:13,729
showed the Milky Way which by the way

3421
02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:15,380
how could they have a photograph of the

3422
02:43:21,250 --> 02:43:17,450
Milky Way Yeah right

3423
02:43:24,040 --> 02:43:21,260
I've always back yeah but anyway that we

3424
02:43:27,639 --> 02:43:24,050
were on the outside of it and now we are

3425
02:43:30,190 --> 02:43:27,649
apparently in in the middle of it or

3426
02:43:35,260 --> 02:43:30,200
closer to the mucky-muck of the middle

3427
02:43:37,690 --> 02:43:35,270
of of the Milky Way could they could

3428
02:43:39,790 --> 02:43:37,700
they have gotten it all wrong you know

3429
02:43:41,530 --> 02:43:39,800
are they joking head of but they haven't

3430
02:43:42,969 --> 02:43:41,540
said that they haven't said that you

3431
02:43:46,030 --> 02:43:42,979
know we used to think that we were in

3432
02:43:48,250 --> 02:43:46,040
the Sagittarius arm but now we've like I

3433
02:43:50,290 --> 02:43:48,260
said recalibrated our you know with our

3434
02:43:52,000 --> 02:43:50,300
better technology now than we had 20

3435
02:43:53,710 --> 02:43:52,010
years ago and we figured out that we're

3436
02:43:55,200 --> 02:43:53,720
actually off by two hundred thousand

3437
02:43:57,730 --> 02:43:55,210
light years or what it was not really

3438
02:44:00,030 --> 02:43:57,740
right right right

3439
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:00,040
well and what do you think

3440
02:44:07,110 --> 02:44:03,610
about Richards comments because Richards

3441
02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:07,120
a smart guy right and and and he's he's

3442
02:44:13,020 --> 02:44:10,570
not fooled but yet he is open-minded as

3443
02:44:14,520 --> 02:44:13,030
open-minded as anybody can get but when

3444
02:44:17,490 --> 02:44:14,530
we started to talk about the Mandela

3445
02:44:19,740 --> 02:44:17,500
effect he shut that down pretty quick

3446
02:44:21,660 --> 02:44:19,750
what do you think about that yeah I

3447
02:44:23,880 --> 02:44:21,670
really noticed that was people that are

3448
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:23,890
even open-minded like my dad I asked him

3449
02:44:27,690 --> 02:44:25,600
about how many people were in Kennedy's

3450
02:44:31,350 --> 02:44:27,700
car when he was assassinated and my dad

3451
02:44:34,170 --> 02:44:31,360
was a big JFK assassination bus and he

3452
02:44:36,030 --> 02:44:34,180
said four and then when I showed him

3453
02:44:37,980 --> 02:44:36,040
that there were actually six people in I

3454
02:44:39,660 --> 02:44:37,990
mean he quickly changed and then said

3455
02:44:42,180 --> 02:44:39,670
well I guess I was wrong I guess it's

3456
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:42,190
always been sick and you know he was

3457
02:44:45,810 --> 02:44:43,840
quite surprised to see it but at the

3458
02:44:47,940 --> 02:44:45,820
same time he he was forced to change

3459
02:44:50,370 --> 02:44:47,950
what he thought he knew really quickly

3460
02:44:52,200 --> 02:44:50,380
so yeah yeah yeah I think it just

3461
02:44:54,180 --> 02:44:52,210
questions people I think it has changes

3462
02:44:55,860 --> 02:44:54,190
people's perception so much that they

3463
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:55,870
are forced to think that they were wrong

3464
02:45:01,230 --> 02:44:58,240
even though wow that's funny that your

3465
02:45:04,920 --> 02:45:01,240
dad was so easy to just go okay well I

3466
02:45:07,380 --> 02:45:04,930
guess I just I'm wrong me I stayed awake

3467
02:45:10,020 --> 02:45:07,390
for about four days after I found out

3468
02:45:11,970 --> 02:45:10,030
that there was six in the car that

3469
02:45:13,710 --> 02:45:11,980
happened on the air or two that happened

3470
02:45:14,730 --> 02:45:13,720
on the air somebody did that to me live

3471
02:45:18,290 --> 02:45:14,740
during the show

3472
02:45:20,430 --> 02:45:18,300
Fallon thank you for your phone call

3473
02:45:20,960 --> 02:45:20,440
yeah you too thank you for the phone

3474
02:45:24,330 --> 02:45:20,970
call

3475
02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:24,340
and sister let's go back to the phones

3476
02:45:32,250 --> 02:45:25,690
hi you live on fade to black who's

3477
02:45:36,780 --> 02:45:32,260
calling you're live hello yes you're

3478
02:45:40,950 --> 02:45:36,790
live right now hi my name is Jane hi

3479
02:45:42,930 --> 02:45:40,960
Jane and I and I'm a first-time caller

3480
02:45:45,600 --> 02:45:42,940
to you that I've been following you for

3481
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:45,610
a long time I was concerned about John

3482
02:45:53,790 --> 02:45:48,640
to death and I think that he was using

3483
02:45:56,250 --> 02:45:53,800
his disclosure to possibly deflect from

3484
02:45:59,070 --> 02:45:56,260
the other things that were going on with

3485
02:46:03,240 --> 02:45:59,080
him what do you think Wow

3486
02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:03,250
okay and that's a possibility sure and

3487
02:46:09,630 --> 02:46:05,920
then you can take the exact opposite of

3488
02:46:11,490 --> 02:46:09,640
what you just said and and this is what

3489
02:46:13,099 --> 02:46:11,500
I mean if you take the exact opposite of

3490
02:46:16,519 --> 02:46:13,109
that that may be

3491
02:46:19,729 --> 02:46:16,529
there were powers in play out there that

3492
02:46:23,179 --> 02:46:19,739
wanted to shut Podesta down because he

3493
02:46:25,700 --> 02:46:23,189
was so vocal about UFOs and they used

3494
02:46:28,399 --> 02:46:25,710
you know how do you bring down somebody

3495
02:46:31,340 --> 02:46:28,409
really really quick well you know child

3496
02:46:33,859 --> 02:46:31,350
porn pedophilia you know and and that's

3497
02:46:36,139 --> 02:46:33,869
it and it may be true that he is part of

3498
02:46:38,149 --> 02:46:36,149
this too as well but if you want to

3499
02:46:41,359 --> 02:46:38,159
silence somebody or discredit somebody

3500
02:46:44,840 --> 02:46:41,369
use certainly that's an effective way of

3501
02:46:47,809 --> 02:46:44,850
going about it don't you think well

3502
02:46:51,439 --> 02:46:47,819
absolutely I definitely think that he

3503
02:46:54,950 --> 02:46:51,449
has just things going on with him and

3504
02:46:58,580 --> 02:46:54,960
I'm very concerned about him still being

3505
02:47:01,880 --> 02:46:58,590
where he's at it'll be exciting to see

3506
02:47:04,130 --> 02:47:01,890
what goes on for 2018 no doubt and I

3507
02:47:08,420 --> 02:47:04,140
just wanted to tell you that January of

3508
02:47:12,019 --> 02:47:08,430
1985 is what I also remember if you're

3509
02:47:17,210 --> 02:47:12,029
Mandela effect is of any there's any

3510
02:47:20,870 --> 02:47:17,220
truth at all it messes with me I mean I

3511
02:47:22,040 --> 02:47:20,880
know what my memory is on that so there

3512
02:47:26,359 --> 02:47:22,050
you go very well

3513
02:47:29,510 --> 02:47:26,369
and absolutely January of 1985 thank you

3514
02:47:31,880 --> 02:47:29,520
so much Jane for the phone call thank

3515
02:47:33,790 --> 02:47:31,890
you for taking my call yeah bye-bye and

3516
02:47:37,010 --> 02:47:33,800
and don't be a stranger we love

3517
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:37,020
first-time callers here on fade to black

3518
02:47:45,200 --> 02:47:40,800
and now let's say let's stay on this the

3519
02:47:47,899 --> 02:47:45,210
the whole January 85 I just know what my

3520
02:47:50,689 --> 02:47:47,909
memory is this isn't anything that I'm

3521
02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:50,699
I'm creating it's just my memory that's

3522
02:48:00,429 --> 02:47:54,090
all oh whoa whoa whoa you're live right

3523
02:48:03,170 --> 02:48:00,439
now hey Jimmy yes I am Johnny um

3524
02:48:04,969 --> 02:48:03,180
first-time caller I got a question I was

3525
02:48:06,939 --> 02:48:04,979
wondering if you're gonna be at some

3526
02:48:09,769 --> 02:48:06,949
point doing another special episode

3527
02:48:12,889 --> 02:48:09,779
focused around Bill Cooper at some point

3528
02:48:15,769 --> 02:48:12,899
oh man that's a that's a great question

3529
02:48:19,969 --> 02:48:15,779
I have the answer

3530
02:48:22,460 --> 02:48:19,979
the short answer is yes I have reached

3531
02:48:24,160 --> 02:48:22,470
out the oh you know to take it to the

3532
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:24,170
next level I want to get on

3533
02:48:31,719 --> 02:48:30,080
the show the the two producers that were

3534
02:48:35,410 --> 02:48:31,729
working with him and that were at the

3535
02:48:36,910 --> 02:48:35,420
scene and I had a conversation with them

3536
02:48:38,500 --> 02:48:36,920
and they they didn't want to come on the

3537
02:48:41,260 --> 02:48:38,510
show and talk about the day that he was

3538
02:48:42,700 --> 02:48:41,270
shot and I said of course we don't we

3539
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:42,710
don't have to do that I want to talk

3540
02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:45,439
about other things and and the life of

3541
02:48:50,500 --> 02:48:47,810
be certainly be more interested in

3542
02:48:52,389 --> 02:48:50,510
hearing more about the stuff that he

3543
02:48:55,360 --> 02:48:52,399
talked about then you know the data that

3544
02:48:57,219 --> 02:48:55,370
he died yeah yeah absolutely John and

3545
02:49:00,519 --> 02:48:57,229
and I appreciate that and I'm glad that

3546
02:49:04,990 --> 02:49:00,529
- you're bringing that up because I

3547
02:49:07,360 --> 02:49:05,000
think it's very important I just heard

3548
02:49:10,269 --> 02:49:07,370
your episode like a couple of months ago

3549
02:49:15,820 --> 02:49:10,279
and noted it was like a year ago today

3550
02:49:18,760 --> 02:49:15,830
Elmo and I just wanted that thank you so

3551
02:49:20,860 --> 02:49:18,770
much John and I don't know where I don't

3552
02:49:23,380 --> 02:49:20,870
know where John is right now but John if

3553
02:49:27,670 --> 02:49:23,390
you're listening to me it's me I think

3554
02:49:29,019 --> 02:49:27,680
John is at a mall or something but let's

3555
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:29,029
stay on the phones hi you're live on

3556
02:49:35,290 --> 02:49:32,210
fade to black who's calling hi this is

3557
02:49:39,309 --> 02:49:35,300
Larry from our hi Larry from Ohio how

3558
02:49:41,290 --> 02:49:39,319
are you man hey I'm good man I'm on

3559
02:49:43,929 --> 02:49:41,300
vacation this week and I get to actually

3560
02:49:45,840 --> 02:49:43,939
listen and watch your show yeah I'm at

3561
02:49:48,969 --> 02:49:45,850
you know and there's nothing like

3562
02:49:51,370 --> 02:49:48,979
Thanksgiving week not only you know for

3563
02:49:53,320 --> 02:49:51,380
for me but for the country and

3564
02:49:55,330 --> 02:49:53,330
apparently for you too as well so thank

3565
02:49:58,510 --> 02:49:55,340
you for you know hanging out with us on

3566
02:50:01,240 --> 02:49:58,520
this week yeah and I want to thank you

3567
02:50:04,689 --> 02:50:01,250
for reading my tweet earlier and asking

3568
02:50:06,700 --> 02:50:04,699
mr. Dolan about the whether or not he

3569
02:50:09,250 --> 02:50:06,710
thought any world government had had

3570
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:09,260
contact with aliens or had face-to-face

3571
02:50:12,969 --> 02:50:11,600
meetings with them oh that was you okay

3572
02:50:15,399 --> 02:50:12,979
yeah absolutely man

3573
02:50:20,979 --> 02:50:15,409
and look it shows you that I do pay

3574
02:50:23,469 --> 02:50:20,989
attention I really love your show man I

3575
02:50:26,320 --> 02:50:23,479
found it by accident on I Heart Radio

3576
02:50:27,639 --> 02:50:26,330
there about a year ago and I listened to

3577
02:50:31,599 --> 02:50:27,649
it as much as I can

3578
02:50:34,179 --> 02:50:31,609
what part of Ohio are you in I'm in

3579
02:50:35,650 --> 02:50:34,189
Granville Ohio which is close to

3580
02:50:37,150 --> 02:50:35,660
Columbus okay

3581
02:50:39,700 --> 02:50:37,160
there you go there you go you know my

3582
02:50:40,210 --> 02:50:39,710
parents were in Guyana you know where

3583
02:50:44,470 --> 02:50:40,220
that is

3584
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:44,480
oh yeah I'm about half 15 minutes from

3585
02:50:48,341 --> 02:50:46,730
there there you go yeah they don't live

3586
02:50:53,110 --> 02:50:48,351
there anymore but I've spent a lot of

3587
02:50:54,820 --> 02:50:53,120
time in Guyana Gahanna Love Ohio alright

3588
02:50:56,920 --> 02:50:54,830
Larry well thank you so much you got

3589
02:51:00,131 --> 02:50:56,930
your plans ready for Thursday

3590
02:51:02,710 --> 02:51:00,141
you guys good to go yeah we're gonna go

3591
02:51:05,801 --> 02:51:02,720
see the Justice League oh that's that's

3592
02:51:08,381 --> 02:51:05,811
cool well you know and and before I let

3593
02:51:12,580 --> 02:51:08,391
you go let me live vicariously through

3594
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:12,590
you for a moment there is nothing like

3595
02:51:17,740 --> 02:51:15,680
not remember we live in you know we're

3596
02:51:20,830 --> 02:51:17,750
in Los Angeles now and we have those

3597
02:51:23,770 --> 02:51:20,840
extreme parts of the country but you

3598
02:51:25,720 --> 02:51:23,780
know middle America you know that's you

3599
02:51:28,690 --> 02:51:25,730
know husband in Chicago middle America

3600
02:51:33,551 --> 02:51:28,700
the Thanksgiving dinner what is on your

3601
02:51:36,301 --> 02:51:33,561
table give me just give me the list well

3602
02:51:39,040 --> 02:51:36,311
this year we're going to Bob Evans oh

3603
02:51:40,091 --> 02:51:39,050
you know what that's Midwestern right

3604
02:51:42,180 --> 02:51:40,101
there so you're not gonna do

3605
02:51:45,190 --> 02:51:42,190
Thanksgiving dinner at home you're gonna

3606
02:51:46,780 --> 02:51:45,200
save the cooking and the dishes for

3607
02:51:50,591 --> 02:51:46,790
another time and you're going to go to

3608
02:51:53,440 --> 02:51:50,601
Bob Evans yeah well the kids are grown

3609
02:51:55,030 --> 02:51:53,450
and they're doing their own things my

3610
02:51:56,860 --> 02:51:55,040
wife and I are just gonna go to the

3611
02:52:00,310 --> 02:51:56,870
movies and then go to Bob Evans with her

3612
02:52:02,500 --> 02:52:00,320
dad nothing wrong with that bad you know

3613
02:52:06,341 --> 02:52:02,510
you know I'm gonna trip you out Larry

3614
02:52:08,980 --> 02:52:06,351
we don't have Bob Evans out here really

3615
02:52:12,190 --> 02:52:08,990
I see you're tripping it doesn't even

3616
02:52:14,261 --> 02:52:12,200
sound right does it no but you do have

3617
02:52:16,930 --> 02:52:14,271
in-n-out burger and I love that place if

3618
02:52:19,180 --> 02:52:16,940
we got in an out burger but we don't

3619
02:52:20,770 --> 02:52:19,190
have we don't have Bob Evans we don't

3620
02:52:22,600 --> 02:52:20,780
have Cracker Barrell we don't have

3621
02:52:26,801 --> 02:52:22,610
Waffle House

3622
02:52:31,020 --> 02:52:26,811
we don't have Perkins we don't have all

3623
02:52:35,370 --> 02:52:31,030
of the when like and what's that

3624
02:52:38,320 --> 02:52:35,380
what's the chili place what's it called

3625
02:52:41,650 --> 02:52:38,330
skyline skyline chili we don't have

3626
02:52:43,360 --> 02:52:41,660
skyline chili men we just got a stake in

3627
02:52:46,540 --> 02:52:43,370
shake though here in Burbank

3628
02:52:49,719 --> 02:52:46,550
oh man I'm mistaken shake and it's it

3629
02:52:51,910 --> 02:52:49,729
tastes the same as it does in Indian

3630
02:52:54,099 --> 02:52:51,920
which blew my mind but yeah we don't

3631
02:52:55,809 --> 02:52:54,109
have Skyline Chili we don't have any of

3632
02:53:02,649 --> 02:52:55,819
that stuff out here it just doesn't

3633
02:53:06,219 --> 02:53:02,659
exist well you still have around here I

3634
02:53:08,170 --> 02:53:06,229
know when my family comes in from out of

3635
02:53:10,420 --> 02:53:08,180
state that's the first thing we do at

3636
02:53:13,149 --> 02:53:10,430
LAX pick them up at the airport

3637
02:53:15,670 --> 02:53:13,159
straight to in-and-out burger I mean

3638
02:53:17,530 --> 02:53:15,680
that's it we go straight there thank you

3639
02:53:21,969 --> 02:53:17,540
so much Larry and you guys have a great

3640
02:53:23,859 --> 02:53:21,979
safe and fun Thanksgiving you too man

3641
02:53:24,729 --> 02:53:23,869
and thanks for everything you do yeah

3642
02:53:28,889 --> 02:53:24,739
Thank You Larry

3643
02:53:32,229 --> 02:53:28,899
really appreciate it skyline chili that

3644
02:53:39,069 --> 02:53:32,239
I likes taking shake chili too as well

3645
02:53:45,609 --> 02:53:39,079
but skyline chili man I miss the Midwest

3646
02:53:47,349 --> 02:53:45,619
I really do when the the audience

3647
02:53:50,679 --> 02:53:47,359
listening to me right now they're

3648
02:53:54,490 --> 02:53:50,689
laughing they don't understand what I am

3649
02:53:57,819 --> 02:53:54,500
trying to say here in Los Angeles you

3650
02:54:01,300 --> 02:53:57,829
don't drive down the street and see the

3651
02:54:03,609 --> 02:54:01,310
restaurants that you have throughout the

3652
02:54:07,660 --> 02:54:03,619
rest of the country you can drive

3653
02:54:09,370 --> 02:54:07,670
through and around these these great

3654
02:54:13,649 --> 02:54:09,380
cities you know Cincinnati Columbus

3655
02:54:17,740 --> 02:54:13,659
Chicago Detroit Indianapolis Minneapolis

3656
02:54:20,439 --> 02:54:17,750
Memphis Charlotte I could go on and on

3657
02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:20,449
and on all these great city and you

3658
02:54:27,340 --> 02:54:23,439
drive around and that you have these

3659
02:54:28,719 --> 02:54:27,350
restaurants one after another we don't

3660
02:54:31,330 --> 02:54:28,729
have any of that out here it just

3661
02:54:34,780 --> 02:54:31,340
doesn't exist it's really really trippy

3662
02:54:37,630 --> 02:54:34,790
now think about that you know talking

3663
02:54:39,099 --> 02:54:37,640
about Bob Evans or Cracker Barrel you

3664
02:54:43,389 --> 02:54:39,109
know they don't exist

3665
02:54:47,530 --> 02:54:43,399
Perkins Skyline Chili no it just it no

3666
02:54:50,979 --> 02:54:47,540
yeah we do have in and out and my other

3667
02:54:54,819 --> 02:54:50,989
favorite Tommy's burgers we do you know

3668
02:54:56,349 --> 02:54:54,829
we've got those but no by and large we

3669
02:54:58,599 --> 02:54:56,359
don't have that restaurant selection

3670
02:55:00,760 --> 02:54:58,609
that you guys have in the Midwest all

3671
02:55:03,040 --> 02:55:00,770
the Italian restaurants no we just don't

3672
02:55:06,160 --> 02:55:03,050
have it we have Olive Garden

3673
02:55:08,529 --> 02:55:06,170
out here right which is like no there's

3674
02:55:12,819 --> 02:55:08,539
no white castle's Lawrence just posted

3675
02:55:15,580 --> 02:55:12,829
there's no white castle's there's a

3676
02:55:18,790 --> 02:55:15,590
Cracker Barrel in Victorville is that

3677
02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:18,800
true nurse Nancy seriously there's a

3678
02:55:23,649 --> 02:55:21,680
Cracker Barrel in Victorville I did not

3679
02:55:26,469 --> 02:55:23,659
know that but yeah we don't have white

3680
02:55:28,569 --> 02:55:26,479
castle's you know what I'm gonna freak

3681
02:55:33,580 --> 02:55:28,579
it out yeah they call it the Heartland

3682
02:55:38,080 --> 02:55:33,590
for a reason Rick just tweeted White

3683
02:55:40,510 --> 02:55:38,090
Castle out here California's first

3684
02:55:43,809 --> 02:55:40,520
Cracker Barrel is coming to Greater Los

3685
02:55:48,309 --> 02:55:43,819
Angeles is that true Kate when th's

3686
02:55:50,319 --> 02:55:48,319
posted that White Castle we have to buy

3687
02:55:54,609 --> 02:55:50,329
frozen you can get it in the

3688
02:55:57,880 --> 02:55:54,619
supermarkets here frozen based on

3689
02:56:00,569 --> 02:55:57,890
cracker barrels behavior we aren't

3690
02:56:03,490 --> 02:56:00,579
missing much

3691
02:56:06,580 --> 02:56:03,500
skyline chili with noodles and cinnamon

3692
02:56:13,200 --> 02:56:06,590
I know Barry you're absolutely right and

3693
02:56:18,279 --> 02:56:15,519
Skyline Chili the first time you taste

3694
02:56:21,429 --> 02:56:18,289
it there's that hint of cinnamon in the

3695
02:56:23,590 --> 02:56:21,439
background and it is so good you really

3696
02:56:25,000 --> 02:56:23,600
you really get used to it

3697
02:56:30,099 --> 02:56:25,010
let's stay on the phones hi you're live

3698
02:56:31,569 --> 02:56:30,109
on fade to black who's calling yeah

3699
02:56:35,740 --> 02:56:31,579
you're breaking up give it one more

3700
02:56:38,859 --> 02:56:35,750
crack who's calling this is Ryan Weiner

3701
02:56:41,290 --> 02:56:38,869
oh hey Ryan how are you man hey yeah

3702
02:56:43,330 --> 02:56:41,300
we're going doing pretty good my brother

3703
02:56:45,609 --> 02:56:43,340
Alan told me to call in we were on the

3704
02:56:48,340 --> 02:56:45,619
speaker tonight and I figured I'd give

3705
02:56:48,910 --> 02:56:48,350
it a shot and I got through right on

3706
02:56:51,189 --> 02:56:48,920
right on

3707
02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:51,199
I'm still waiting for your two videos

3708
02:56:55,630 --> 02:56:53,600
man you never send them to well it hey

3709
02:56:57,490 --> 02:56:55,640
I'm in Sacramento I was I kind of want

3710
02:56:59,950 --> 02:56:57,500
to give them to you personally if that's

3711
02:57:02,590 --> 02:56:59,960
possible I'm working and living in

3712
02:57:05,080 --> 02:57:02,600
Sacramento now so kinda weird but well

3713
02:57:07,059 --> 02:57:05,090
that's uh that's eight hours away but

3714
02:57:10,960 --> 02:57:07,069
well here's the thing I'm headed that

3715
02:57:13,149 --> 02:57:10,970
way this coming week to Vegas and I was

3716
02:57:15,460 --> 02:57:13,159
thinking maybe on my way to Vegas I

3717
02:57:16,310 --> 02:57:15,470
could come and bring him by personally

3718
02:57:19,011 --> 02:57:16,320
okay

3719
02:57:23,360 --> 02:57:19,021
yeah well we'll see what we can do with

3720
02:57:25,160 --> 02:57:23,370
that all right all right yeah yeah we'll

3721
02:57:26,690 --> 02:57:25,170
talk about that out of the air but yeah

3722
02:57:29,570 --> 02:57:26,700
I do want to check out these next two

3723
02:57:34,550 --> 02:57:29,580
videos the right this is Ryan everybody

3724
02:57:38,330 --> 02:57:34,560
that shot the the object up at ESET e

3725
02:57:40,580 --> 02:57:38,340
ranch that we posted that video of and

3726
02:57:41,930 --> 02:57:40,590
he's got two more videos that I've been

3727
02:57:46,310 --> 02:57:41,940
waiting to see I haven't seen him yet

3728
02:57:48,650 --> 02:57:46,320
are they as great as the first one yeah

3729
02:57:53,450 --> 02:57:48,660
well there's there's moving objects and

3730
02:57:56,690 --> 02:57:53,460
the other videos that I have yeah it's

3731
02:57:59,180 --> 02:57:56,700
it's amazing when I thought all that day

3732
02:58:01,011 --> 02:57:59,190
I just you know I just noticed them

3733
02:58:03,980 --> 02:58:01,021
later after I went through them with my

3734
02:58:06,560 --> 02:58:03,990
brothers and by myself right all right

3735
02:58:10,220 --> 02:58:06,570
and so you're in Sacramento where were

3736
02:58:12,500 --> 02:58:10,230
you before Sacramento Tacoma that's

3737
02:58:14,690 --> 02:58:12,510
working because we're talking about

3738
02:58:17,800 --> 02:58:14,700
restaurants right now Tacoma great

3739
02:58:20,330 --> 02:58:17,810
restaurants you know what's weird

3740
02:58:24,380 --> 02:58:20,340
Sacramento's got great restaurants it's

3741
02:58:27,440 --> 02:58:24,390
like the opposite of Los Angeles yeah I

3742
02:58:34,850 --> 02:58:27,450
tried this a Mills diner it's where they

3743
02:58:37,580 --> 02:58:34,860
filmed graffiti Oh American Graffiti yes

3744
02:58:39,740 --> 02:58:37,590
American Graffiti yeah I went there that

3745
02:58:43,580 --> 02:58:39,750
was great there's a bunch of old old

3746
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:43,590
cars out front is this pretty sweet yeah

3747
02:58:48,800 --> 02:58:45,600
we have Mel's Diner down here too as

3748
02:58:49,430 --> 02:58:48,810
well read it I ate there of a about a

3749
02:58:52,070 --> 02:58:49,440
month ago

3750
02:58:56,930 --> 02:58:52,080
there's one not too far from us here in

3751
02:59:01,070 --> 02:58:56,940
Burbank it so oh no that's a that's a

3752
02:59:02,810 --> 02:59:01,080
great restaurant and Rita's I'm

3753
02:59:04,370 --> 02:59:02,820
wondering what we're gonna do after the

3754
02:59:07,670 --> 02:59:04,380
show tonight for food now we're all

3755
02:59:09,410 --> 02:59:07,680
hungry so somebody just posted Colorado

3756
02:59:11,810 --> 02:59:09,420
has no jack-in-the-box

3757
02:59:14,810 --> 02:59:11,820
well you're not missing much there

3758
02:59:16,700 --> 02:59:14,820
Jordan you know but you always want what

3759
02:59:20,150 --> 02:59:16,710
you can't have right so I guess a

3760
02:59:22,580 --> 02:59:20,160
jack-in-the-box jack-in-the-box

3761
02:59:25,790 --> 02:59:22,590
yeah I actually I still have a place in

3762
02:59:27,800 --> 02:59:25,800
the living a place in Montana I'm just

3763
02:59:30,559 --> 02:59:27,810
on the road working but I haven't been

3764
02:59:33,139 --> 02:59:30,569
to my place and a-five we

3765
02:59:37,130 --> 02:59:33,149
but yeah we don't have a jack-in-the-box

3766
02:59:39,469 --> 02:59:37,140
in Montana either so I feel that yeah

3767
02:59:41,599 --> 02:59:39,479
somebody just said to have Carabas out

3768
02:59:44,389 --> 02:59:41,609
here I know that there was a Carabas in

3769
02:59:46,940 --> 02:59:44,399
in Las Vegas I don't remember a Carabas

3770
02:59:50,360 --> 02:59:46,950
here in in Southern California not that

3771
02:59:53,179 --> 02:59:50,370
I remember but there you go so y'all is

3772
02:59:55,760 --> 02:59:53,189
that I'm planning on taking a trip up

3773
02:59:58,269 --> 02:59:55,770
there again and my plan is go up there

3774
03:00:01,550 --> 02:59:58,279
it's my younger brother Justin and

3775
03:00:04,070 --> 03:00:01,560
trying hike up to Mount Adams and try

3776
03:00:05,840 --> 03:00:04,080
and get to the to the cave we'll

3777
03:00:09,070 --> 03:00:05,850
probably have to wait until the

3778
03:00:13,130 --> 03:00:09,080
summertime but what's the next plan for

3779
03:00:15,530 --> 03:00:13,140
for me yeah we have that yeah we have a

3780
03:00:16,880 --> 03:00:15,540
big event that we're gonna be doing up

3781
03:00:20,059 --> 03:00:16,890
there next August

3782
03:00:21,650 --> 03:00:20,069
at ISA DIA fade to black event and so

3783
03:00:23,870 --> 03:00:21,660
you'll have to be there for that that's

3784
03:00:26,719 --> 03:00:23,880
going to be a pretty well yeah it's

3785
03:00:28,250 --> 03:00:26,729
going to be pretty good all right all

3786
03:00:30,260 --> 03:00:28,260
right Ryan well thank you so much you

3787
03:00:34,130 --> 03:00:30,270
all set up for Thanksgiving this

3788
03:00:36,410 --> 03:00:34,140
Thursday yeah yeah I'm headed back to

3789
03:00:39,950 --> 03:00:36,420
Tacoma actually my mother and brothers

3790
03:00:41,809 --> 03:00:39,960
are all gonna be meeting there so and

3791
03:00:44,900 --> 03:00:41,819
then after that it's a family reunion in

3792
03:00:47,120 --> 03:00:44,910
Las Vegas so it's pretty we got a lot of

3793
03:00:49,969 --> 03:00:47,130
stuff going on right now all right

3794
03:00:52,820 --> 03:00:49,979
well I look forward to seeing these two

3795
03:00:55,000 --> 03:00:52,830
videos so be safe traveling to Las Vegas

3796
03:00:59,360 --> 03:00:55,010
and we'll talk off the air about that

3797
03:01:01,729 --> 03:00:59,370
Thanks yeah Thank You Ryan again be safe

3798
03:01:04,610 --> 03:01:01,739
out there in your travels that video

3799
03:01:06,380 --> 03:01:04,620
that he shot up at he said he is a mind

3800
03:01:09,889 --> 03:01:06,390
bender and if you haven't seen it just

3801
03:01:13,219 --> 03:01:09,899
go to our YouTube channel and-and-and

3802
03:01:15,830 --> 03:01:13,229
check it out but that that is an amazing

3803
03:01:19,429 --> 03:01:15,840
video and he caught that well okay so

3804
03:01:21,349 --> 03:01:19,439
that wraps another episode of fade to

3805
03:01:24,349 --> 03:01:21,359
black I do want to thank Richard Dolan

3806
03:01:27,260 --> 03:01:24,359
tonight for coming in and doing what he

3807
03:01:30,050 --> 03:01:27,270
does best which is spread the knowledge

3808
03:01:32,479 --> 03:01:30,060
he is just the most fascinating person

3809
03:01:35,059 --> 03:01:32,489
to talk to and if you ever get a chance

3810
03:01:37,820 --> 03:01:35,069
to hang out with Richard he has hung out

3811
03:01:39,889 --> 03:01:37,830
with the fader knots a lot and just sat

3812
03:01:41,870 --> 03:01:39,899
and and talked but if you ever get a

3813
03:01:43,160 --> 03:01:41,880
chance to do that I strongly suggest

3814
03:01:46,219 --> 03:01:43,170
that you do is

3815
03:01:49,160 --> 03:01:46,229
site is Richard Dolan press.com

3816
03:01:53,510 --> 03:01:49,170
and when you go you will see that he is

3817
03:01:56,030 --> 03:01:53,520
revamping the website and it is the

3818
03:01:59,420 --> 03:01:56,040
holes are there you can see where he is

3819
03:02:02,290 --> 03:01:59,430
going in 2018 very excited about that

3820
03:02:05,810 --> 03:02:02,300
and looking forward to his new book

3821
03:02:08,150 --> 03:02:05,820
tomorrow night we are moving Fator night

3822
03:02:10,460 --> 03:02:08,160
to tomorrow night Wednesday Thursday

3823
03:02:13,460 --> 03:02:10,470
night we are taking off it is

3824
03:02:15,410 --> 03:02:13,470
Thanksgiving so tomorrow night is Fator

3825
03:02:17,450 --> 03:02:15,420
night open lines all night long

3826
03:02:21,620 --> 03:02:17,460
Jon Rappoport is taking the week off

3827
03:02:23,719 --> 03:02:21,630
will see John next week on fit on on

3828
03:02:25,429 --> 03:02:23,729
fader night on Thursday night but

3829
03:02:29,060 --> 03:02:25,439
tomorrow night I do want to hear from

3830
03:02:32,630 --> 03:02:29,070
all of you so we'll have a couple of a

3831
03:02:34,760 --> 03:02:32,640
surprise friends stop by and hang out

3832
03:02:36,920 --> 03:02:34,770
but it's going to be open lines all

3833
03:02:39,080 --> 03:02:36,930
night long let's just talk food

3834
03:02:41,270 --> 03:02:39,090
let's talk Thanksgiving what are we

3835
03:02:43,790 --> 03:02:41,280
thankful for of course the paranormal

3836
03:02:46,160 --> 03:02:43,800
and the supernatural are always there

3837
03:02:49,760 --> 03:02:46,170
for a phone call but we'll be doing that

3838
03:02:52,820 --> 03:02:49,770
all night tomorrow night and there you

3839
03:02:54,710 --> 03:02:52,830
go so let me get out of here I do want

3840
03:02:56,150 --> 03:02:54,720
to thank everybody for tweeting tonight

3841
03:02:59,840 --> 03:02:56,160
and all the phone calls

3842
03:03:01,520 --> 03:02:59,850
this is fade to black and and man it's

3843
03:03:03,770 --> 03:03:01,530
it's my favorite night of the week's

3844
03:03:06,380 --> 03:03:03,780
gonna kick off tomorrow paid to Black's

3845
03:03:08,900 --> 03:03:06,390
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3846
03:03:11,810 --> 03:03:08,910
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3847
03:03:14,300 --> 03:03:11,820
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3848
03:03:17,240 --> 03:03:14,310
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3849
03:03:20,330 --> 03:03:17,250
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3850
03:03:23,780 --> 03:03:20,340
music doug aldrich intros space boys

3851
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:23,790
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03:03:31,760 --> 03:03:25,850
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3853
03:03:33,710 --> 03:03:31,770
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3854
03:03:35,480 --> 03:03:33,720
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3855
03:03:37,790 --> 03:03:35,490
and tweeted tonight this broadcast on a

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03:03:39,110 --> 03:03:37,800
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03:03:41,420 --> 03:03:39,120
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03:03:42,890 --> 03:03:41,430
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3859
03:03:45,170 --> 03:03:42,900
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3860
03:03:47,120 --> 03:03:45,180
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3862
03:03:51,830 --> 03:03:49,620
Network I'm your host Jimmy Church

3863
03:03:54,969 --> 03:03:51,840
follow me on twitter @jj Church radio

3864
03:03:57,969 --> 03:03:54,979
email is Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com

3865
03:04:10,710 --> 03:03:57,979
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